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PerfInit 08-07-2016 09:22 AM

AFAIK it is still in KRBD.. All ATP's has PA-44's there. They can run you through the entire profile as I recall.. Plan to travel there a day early and do the practice run, that worked well for me...

MidwestXLguy 08-07-2016 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by PerfInit (Post 2175821)
AFAIK it is still in KRBD.. All ATP's has PA-44's there. They can run you through the entire profile as I recall.. Plan to travel there a day early and do the practice run, that worked well for me...

I didn't do it, but probably would have been worthwhile. I made it through, but know of one or two that haven't. You can read all the gouge in this thread.

I miss my dog 08-07-2016 10:14 AM

Thanks for the info. Haven't flown a Seminole or even much multi in awhile so probably better spend the money.

FlyingPoke 08-07-2016 10:20 AM

I just did a couple hours in a Redbird sim with an instructor, a bit cheaper and accomplished the same goal, just knocking some rust off. You have to be pretty deficient to fail the ride, unless they've changed something in the last year (entirely possible).

MidwestXLguy 08-07-2016 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingPoke (Post 2175853)
I just did a couple hours in a Redbird sim with an instructor, a bit cheaper and accomplished the same goal, just knocking some rust off. You have to be pretty deficient to fail the ride, unless they've changed something in the last year (entirely possible).

Same here. I watched a couple of UND and AllATPSs videos on the vmc demo, etc., then did a half hour in a Redbird sim. The only real challenge was the steep turns. The Seminole was a lot heavier on the elevator than I remembered.

PerfInit 08-07-2016 10:38 AM

It took me a few hours to get used to the PA-44 as I was flying jets prior. I kept trying to flare at 50', LOL...

MidwestXLguy 08-07-2016 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by PerfInit (Post 2175863)
It took me a few hours to get used to the PA-44 as I was flying jets prior. I kept trying to flare at 50', LOL...

Hahahah, same here, except biz jets. Didn't have any trouble with the flare, or the basic engine out stuff during the pre-employment ride.

Funny enough, during Indoc flying, fourteen months later, guy failed an engine on me. I stepped on the rudder, pitched for the proper airspeed, and kept going. He looked at me, laughed and said 'been flying jets, eh?' I said 'yesssss....?' He laughed again, and said 'you might want to do something about the that pesky propellor'. Oops.

FlyingPoke 08-07-2016 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by MidwestXLguy (Post 2175866)
I stepped on the rudder, pitched for the proper airspeed, and kept going. He looked at me, laughed and said 'been flying jets, eh?' I said 'yesssss....?' He laughed again, and said 'you might want to do something about the that pesky propellor'. Oops.

Same here, in the sim they pulled the engine on T/O, I pushed up the throttles and just kept motoring. Instructor had to instill a bit more urgency in me since I was still in the 'climb out and figure it out later' mindset. Good guys at the academy though, too bad they're axing it up like that.

Yoda2 08-07-2016 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingPoke (Post 2175870)
Same here, in the sim they pulled the engine on T/O, I pushed up the throttles and just kept motoring. Instructor had to instill a bit more urgency in me since I was still in the 'climb out and figure it out later' mindset. Good guys at the academy though, too bad they're axing it up like that.

Many of the Mil guys do that, not uncommon at all. Also, running "the drill" [MPT,IVFS] too quickly is also an issue. That will make an instructor or examiner just as nervous as too slow.

CampPTown 08-08-2016 12:20 PM

Hiring still on track for the end of the month?


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