What? 12-15 years to make back what you would have at JB? What numbers are you looking at? By 2nd year pay as a WB FO at Fedex he's probably making more than a CA at JB when you count the fringe benefits of which JB has almost none. Pension+B plan are worth at least another 25% at Fedex and insurance is far more valuable at Fedex than at JB. I'd say it'd take about 3 years to make back what you lost - now there are intangibles here, being a captain at JB vs a FO at Fedex, flying with a ton of very, very, very old guys at Fedex, etc but for money, it's not much of a decision.

Nice strawman. Ergo, I didn't make either of those points/arguments, no.

We have guys at UPS who are ultra marathoners, triathletes, prior world class swimmers, you name it... we also have guys who eat anything that's shiny and nothing green and or work too hard - Your health is up to you...

I used to block 900+ hours a year with regular 3:30am east coast wake up times before my 5 leg day - what's the difference? That was brutal!

I'm on track to block less than 300 hours in 12 months and I'm home more than ever especially on the weekends! The freight misconception that we're all going to die at 65 + a day is comical...

Drones still need pilots. You just aren't in the cockpit. I would love to make my home office into a RPA office. Wake up, a little work out, some food get cleaned up and fly 2 round trips between PHL and Boston for the day. Then walk over to my hangar, pull my bug smasher out and fly to lunch. I don't need to do 4 day trips/hotels for the next 22.5 years. Just pay me the same to fly an RPA and I'll have my own plane to get my flying fix. Bug smashers are more fun than airliners anyway - my hangar will have a YAK-50 and L-19 someday. It will be tuff deciding if it's a go upside down day or skim the treetops with a friend day.

I guarantee it will pay less than half

To the OP....

You should post this same question in the FedEX section to compare answers.

I'm in my 5th year at FX. The comments about looking 70 at 50 and flying with old Captains are uninformed. Feel free to PM me with specific questions.

Making good or bad choices on top of a unhealthy foundation can either slow or compound the problem. It's a fact that rotating shift work causes desynchronization at the molecular level in the circadian oscillators in the central nervous tissue and in most peripheral tissues of the body. Anotherwords, if you keep that lifestyle up for long periods of time then your life expentany and/or qualifty of health is shorted on average do to a wide range of complications. Most will deny it or not realize what is happening but it will catch up eventually.

At least it hasn't yet impaired my ability to spell correctly. :eek:






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Pretty sure there is plenty of backside of the clock flying at JetBlue and the legacies. Seems to be plenty of different call signs out there at 3am.

So are you just guessing or did you run the numbers? Yes at first glance of both contracts you would think it wouldn't take long to catch back up. But you have to figure JB will get a contract somewhere in the ballpark of Hawaiian pay by 2019. Then how do the numbers compare? All I am saying is run the numbers. I don't think it is a question that he would make more at FedEx over the rest of his career. For me I would go to FedEx because I'd rather live the rest of my life on a spread of land a hour outside of MEM, as opposed to any of the JB bases. Your money will go a lot farther there than in BOS.