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dfwflyboy 03-06-2017 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Car Ramrod (Post 2313403)
Did you actually really run the numbers? You have to run them under the assumption that you will get a contract at JB. Figure conservatively like JB attaining a contract in 2020 that is right at current industry average. Then compare. I bet they will show you that if you go to FedEx it will take 12-15 years to make back what you would have made by staying put. Then beyond that you will make more at FedEx. How important is QOL? Do you commute now? If so are you willing to move to a JB base? This is too complex of a question to answer. My advice is follow the quality of life. You will make enough to have a good life at either place.

I would not run #s under an "assumption". I would go with the hard facts. Same as spirit. If you get an offer. Compare facts and reality. Not pipe dreams of a better life at JB or spirit. Both will get contracts someday but who knows when and they'll be much worse than FDX

Car Ramrod 03-06-2017 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2314947)
I would not run #s under an "assumption". I would go with the hard facts. Same as spirit. If you get an offer. Compare facts and reality. Not pipe dreams of a better life at JB or spirit. Both will get contracts someday but who knows when and they'll be much worse than FDX

So you are saying use current contract numbers for the next 5,10, 20 years? That's a bad assumption too even though those are currently hard #s (facts). Listen you can make realistic assumptions and err on the conservative side. That'll give you the best guess of how the financials will play out. The best advice the OP should take is make your decision based on QOL.

United uhhh 03-06-2017 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Albief15 (Post 2313853)

flexibility of FedEx and the pay I was making were probably better than I would have had even in the left seat. I quit looking at JB with any envy.

the very lucrative nature of the flying blew well past what I could have experienced at jB.



Your reply is very much appreciated! I really appreciate the honesty and depth of your reply. Thank you.

Could you elaborate a bit more on the 2 items quoted above?

-Specifically what is the "flexibility of FedEx"
-Specifically what is the "lucrative nature of the flying"

Thank you for this! It really helps!

Albief15 03-06-2017 11:14 PM

Do you have a FedEx offer? Are you one of the many JB guys who has migrated over?

If yes--then you probably already know enough our life to make the big connections. If not--it is sort of academic for now.

Not meaning to sound snarky--your first post made me think you had the option. The last post makes me think you are asking questions at the water cooler. Neither is bad--just trying to get an accurate read...

A short synopsis is we don't get paid for block much, but for trip and duty rig. Flexibility means the ability to add or drop trips with ease, find trips that layover or have a DH to/from an area near your home, and the ability to manipulate a schedule in ways that are as varied as the pilots who work here. I would pick many trips based on the front or back end deadhead banks which let me get to work and back without the stress of asking for a jumpseat or being stuck in coach very often. Flying first class to Paris, then taking a jet to EWR, then DHing home the next morning and pocketing 30 hours of pay for 3 days away from home is what I mean by flexible and lucrative. There was always a FDX trip that seemed to fit the length of time I wanted to work (1 day, 7 days, or anything between) and a place I wanted to go or see (weekend layover in Boise, a deadhead to Mumbai India...) It was never boring, and no matter how much time I had I seemed to be able to find a way to work or not work based on what was best at the moment for my goals. The fact I could do that without living in domcile made my life very nice...

busdriver12 03-08-2017 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by United uhhh (Post 2315124)
Your reply is very much appreciated! I really appreciate the honesty and depth of your reply. Thank you.

Could you elaborate a bit more on the 2 items quoted above?

-Specifically what is the "flexibility of FedEx"
-Specifically what is the "lucrative nature of the flying"

Thank you for this! It really helps!

To add on to Albie....it means at FedEx we can basically work every day of our life if we wanted to. Or one day every 90 days (as long as you had a rare three leg trip and took all the landings). Staffing permitted, unlimited drop and swap. And we get paid very well.

full of luv 03-09-2017 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 2316967)
To add on to Albie....it means at FedEx we can basically work every day of our life if we wanted to. Or one day every 90 days (as long as you had a rare three leg trip and took all the landings). Staffing permitted, unlimited drop and swap. And we get paid very well.

With an intact pension......

atrdriver 03-09-2017 09:32 AM

But JetBlue has CULTURE! :rolleyes:

And 10-hour 3-days.

Carlsbad 03-10-2017 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by United uhhh (Post 2313342)
Curious of opinions on a 7 year jb capt, line holder, commuting.... Leaving to start new at fedex...

Age 39
3 kids
Would move to base in year 2 or 3 at fedex. Open to FDA colon or Hong Kong.

Thanks

I went through in a new hire class with a Jet Blue captain. That's for American Airlines. He'd probably leave here now for FedEX! Run don't walk.

PasserOGas 03-10-2017 04:56 PM

I'm confused by this thread. Was the OP being sarcastic?

OleDawg 03-10-2017 07:43 PM

From the FedEx thread:

FedEx Express to Host Pilot Career Expo
Mar 10, 2017 • Flight Management

FedEx Express is excited to host its first ever Pilot Career Expo on Wednesday, May 3, in the FedEx Express Experience Center. The one-day session is designed to highlight what it's like to fly for the industry's premier airline, and to introduce Memphis, our global headquarters for more than four decades.

The Pilot Career Expo will be purely informational in nature, providing our guests a glimpse into our operations, our core values and an opportunity to learn firsthand why FedEx is such a great place to work.
The Pilot Career Expo will include presentations by FedEx executives and will feature a host of exhibits surrounding FedEx operations, innovation and our approach to safety. FedEx will offer hub tours to a limited number of attendees the evening before the Expo. Additionally, FedEx representatives will explain pilot hiring requirements and provide an overview of our application and interview processes.
Space will be limited, and slots given to applicants who have an active profile on fedex.pilotcredentials.com on a first come, first served basis. If they do not have an active profile, applicants should visit fedex.pilotcredentials.com to complete one and review our minimum qualifications. Applicants that already have an active file entered, should revisit and update as needed. FedEx Express will open up registration Monday, March 27, at 8:00 am CDT, on the Pilot Career Expo website.

Disclaimer
Participation in the 2017 FedEx Pilot Career Expo is not a guarantee of employment with FedEx Express. Please also note that no interviews will be conducted during the event.


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