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Old 02-28-2007, 09:47 AM
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I have no clue about any of this information...but a friend just emailed this to me. So dont shoot the messenger~!

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>New User Fees, Huge Tax Increases Ruinous
>for General Aviation
> Visit www.nbaa.org/userfees and
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>Contact Congress TODAY
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>February 27, 2007
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>A recently released FAA funding proposal represents one of the greatest
>threats business aviation has ever faced. To keep this proposal from
>becoming law, you need to take action now.
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>The recent news excerpts alongside this message demonstrate that airline
>lobbying has succeeded in getting the FAA to unveil a funding plan that
>gives the giant airlines a major tax break while imposing massive tax hikes
>and onerous new user fees on the businesses that rely on general aviation.
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>The airlines' FAA plan also dramatically reduces Congressional authority
>over the air traffic system, gives airlines a bigger say in FAA operations,
>and establishes a huge new multi-billion dollar bureaucracy to assess and
>collect user fees.
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>NBAA is fighting this toxic mix of massive tax increases, user fees and
>airline power, but our success depends on you. Your elected officials need
>to hear from you about the airlines' FAA proposal, because you can be sure
>that every Member of Congress is hearing from the big airlines and their
>army of lobbyists.
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>Please take a minute to voice your opposition to the airlines' FAA proposal
>by using NBAA's online resource for communicating with Congress (if you
>have used the resource before, I urge you to use it again to send a new
>letter that has been prepared specific to the FAA proposal). To access
>Contact Congress, visit:
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>www.nbaa.org/userfees
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>Once you have accessed the resource, fill in the information requested and
>NBAA's software will automatically prepare an email you can send to your
>Senators and your House Representative in opposition to the big airlines'
>radical scheme. You can edit the letter before sending it if you wish.
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>I also urge you to forward this email to others you know who care about the
>future of business aviation in the United States. Encourage them to make
>their voices heard on Capitol Hill. If we act collectively, we can not only
>defeat the big airlines' FAA plan, but modernize our air traffic control
>system to ensure that all Americans have access to the largest, safest and
>most efficient aviation system in the world.
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>Sincerely,
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>Ed Bolen
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>President and CEO
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>National Business Aviation Association
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> Recent Quotes About the Airlines' User Fee Proposal
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>“...The administration would shift from taxing commercial airline tickets
>and replace the lost revenue with higher user fees and other tax
>increases.”
> The Hill, 2/15/07
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>“The Federal Aviation Administration... detailed its proposal to shift more
>of its funding burden to charter services and private aircraft operators.”
> Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 2/15/07
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>“The plan also calls for collecting 'user fees' from aircraft operators,
>which would impose a fee each time an aircraft flies.”
> The Washington Times, 2/15/07
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>National Business Aviation Association
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> 1200 18th Street, NW
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> Suite 400
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> Washington, DC 20036
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> 202-783-9000
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> www.nbaa.org
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:03 AM
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User fees will kill general aviation.
I am against it, and all of you should be too.

Check out this site for more information.
http://www.aopa.org/faafundingdebate/
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ryane946 View Post
User fees will kill general aviation.
I am against it, and all of you should be too.

Check out this site for more information.
http://www.aopa.org/faafundingdebate/
Actually this would be good for airline pilots in about 8 years. Less pool of Commercial pilots willing to fly for pennies at the regionals...a rising tide raises all ships!
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by reddog25 View Post
Actually this would be good for airline pilots in about 8 years. Less pool of Commercial pilots willing to fly for pennies at the regionals...a rising tide raises all ships!

I seriously hope you're joking about this. How in the world will the US be able to keep up with the rising demand for air travel if there is a huge gap in the pilot pool? Current cabotage rules will be tossed out the window to make up for the lack of reliable US transportation, and the like of Virgin America and a number of other foreign competitors will be chomping at the bit to get into this market. You thought wages were bad now, wait 8 years.
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Geronimo4497 View Post
I seriously hope you're joking about this. How in the world will the US be able to keep up with the rising demand for air travel if there is a huge gap in the pilot pool?:
Nope, not joking. Controlling the supply while the demand goes up is the way to raise your wages. Take a look at the Medical profession. They limit the number of qualified applicants to med school which keeps the output low, and wages up. I know, my smart daughter (solid MCAT scores; don't know who her father could be) has sent out one quadzillion med school apps.....no bites! Supply down, demand up...$$$
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reddog let me guess you did your flying in the military? even if you didn't, why would you want the usa like europe flying rules? ga pays enough.
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reddog25 is not wrong at all about the Supply and Demand thing but I don't think that taxing the hell out GA is a good idea either.
Geronimo4497- there is no shortage of pilots and I doubt there will be any in the near future - the market is flooded with pilots and that is why wages keep going down- hence the supply and demand thing. Also I will bet technology will keep increasing on airplanes and owners will realize that they can repalace experinced pilots with automation.
I don't like it either but technology seems to always replace human experience.
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reddog let me guess you did your flying in the military? even if you didn't, why would you want the usa like europe flying rules? ga pays enough.
Good guess, as well as private pilot, and commercial...what's your point. My point is that with reduced pool of Comercial pilots available, then maybe those looking for jobs can get paid more than a guy who paints your house
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How about the thousands that don't go to the majors and instead decide to fly 135? That would put those thousands on the streets and make the pool even deeper. Kinda like all those furloughs after 9/11.
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If it puts their company out of business, they made a poor decision to fly 135 instead of 121. Bring on the fair taxes. Only on the turbine crowd though. Not the put put crowd.
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