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Fins Up 03-24-2007 04:19 PM

Thank you for the kind words.


Originally Posted by Skyone (Post 138220)
Gotta say Gman, I fly JB (full fare) several times a month to and from JFK. You have a good "flt ops" but that mess in JFK is horrible. I have had four or five SNAFUs with you guys, because of the personnel in JFK. But once on the aircraft, that legroom is welcome and the staff good.

Impressed with the overal help of off duty pilots helping get the plane out, after their free ride. Have to say, always a great experience out of my hometown.

And despite what Major Limeface whines about, you will have a union when you need one. Simple as that. But I doubt it will be ALPA with attitudes like his. One bad apple..........


CAL EWR 03-24-2007 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Gman (Post 138160)
There ya go:



Anything else?

Yes lose the attitude! Jetblue like every other US airline has for the most part very professional pilots that overall do an outstanding job no better or no worse than any other US airline. Your airline like just about every other airline since the inception of the industry will ride the ups and downs of this very unstable industry. Jetblue is not immured like no other airline is either.

Airline management is out for themselves (Jetblue too), and the stock holders certainly not the employees and especially not the pilots. Jetblue pilots deserve no less than any other pilot group. Stop drinking the cool aid organize and help us take back our profession through pattern bargaining.

ALPA is going to be a different union. Our new Communications Chairman (CAL ALPA) is going to spend some time with the Jetblue pilots (flew for you guys until last year while on furlough and a subsequent leave of absence) discussing the advantages of ALPA. Even if you don't go ALPA organize for your own good, and the good of your fellow professional aviators.

Fins Up 03-25-2007 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by CAL EWR (Post 138789)
Yes lose the attitude! Jetblue like every other US airline has for the most part very professional pilots that overall do an outstanding job no better or no worse than any other US airline. Your airline like just about every other airline since the inception of the industry will ride the ups and downs of this very unstable industry. Jetblue is not immured like no other airline is either.

Airline management is out for themselves (Jetblue too), and the stock holders certainly not the employees and especially not the pilots. Jetblue pilots deserve no less than any other pilot group. Stop drinking the cool aid organize and help us take back our profession through pattern bargaining.

ALPA is going to be a different union. Our new Communications Chairman (CAL ALPA) is going to spend some time with the Jetblue pilots (flew for you guys until last year while on furlough and a subsequent leave of absence) discussing the advantages of ALPA. Even if you don't go ALPA organize for your own good, and the good of your fellow professional aviators.

My friend the G-man has nothing but the best intentions for our company and the business and has nothing but bad experiences with ALPA. You say ALPA is "going to be a different union". Well, as they say, money talks and B.S. walks. ALPA has a LOT of kissing up to do to former members before they will ever be welcome here. I don't disupute the fact that a union is most likely inevitable here. We're one of the few companies without one. A union built from within, no matter how long it takes, will be much more successful than a union for which there is so much animosity.

Baradium 03-26-2007 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by Fins Up (Post 139193)
My friend the G-man has nothing but the best intentions for our company and the business and has nothing but bad experiences with ALPA. You say ALPA is "going to be a different union". Well, as they say, money talks and B.S. walks. ALPA has a LOT of kissing up to do to former members before they will ever be welcome here. I don't disupute the fact that a union is most likely inevitable here. We're one of the few companies without one. A union built from within, no matter how long it takes, will be much more successful than a union for which there is so much animosity.

Still big words from someone who is at an airline that at worst is at least trying to stay fairly close to union agreements if only to try to prolong unionization.


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