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putzin 09-09-2017 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by dwightkschrute (Post 2427420)
Haha, I wouldn't argue with you there. I'd take my dog AND 2 cats before most people I deal with on a daily basis.

I enjoy our animals, will always take care of them when able, but I'll always take the people. An animal is just that, an animal, no ability to reason other than be loyal to the next person that hands them a scrap of food.

People on other hand can do great things when encouraged, trained and supported, just as many of us have been. We can live without animals, not so much without each other.

LNL76 09-09-2017 07:54 AM

People first....especially if you have to make a split-second decision, as in hitting an animal to save a human. EVERY time.

Turbosina 09-09-2017 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 2427643)
People first....especially if you have to make a split-second decision, as in hitting an animal to save a human. EVERY time.

The only reason to hit the animal is because the animal can't sue you if you hit them.

And given the choice between saving a dog and saving a human, I'd save the dog 99 times out of 100.

Mozekian 09-09-2017 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2427656)
The only reason to hit the animal is because the animal can't sue you if you hit them.

And given the choice between saving a dog and saving a human, I'd save the dog 99 times out of 100.

I hope for your sake that your fellow Man doesn't have to make that same decision towards you if you're ever in harms way.

ShyGuy 09-09-2017 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2427641)
I enjoy our animals, will always take care of them when able, but I'll always take the people. An animal is just that, an animal, no ability to reason other than be loyal to the next person that hands them a scrap of food.

That definition covers a LOT of people, too: eg, no ability to reason, completely dependent on handouts of food, welfare, etc.



People on other hand can do great things when encouraged, trained and supported, just as many of us have been. We can live without animals, not so much without each other.
Animals can also do many great things when they are trained and supported. Blind assist dogs, deaf assist dogs, all for human beings. In fact, animals like dogs are SO good at their job, that people exploit them via FAKE "service animal" jackets and documents to take them everywhere for free. Or pay $79 online to get ESA documentation and now no one can question it.

firedup 09-09-2017 10:22 AM

Jetblue brought a bunch (16 I think) airplanes to FLL and MCO to evacuate just crews and their families positive space. Yes we cancelled flights like everyone else. But I think they are handling this storm very well


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LNL76 09-09-2017 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2427656)
The only reason to hit the animal is because the animal can't sue you if you hit them.

And given the choice between saving a dog and saving a human, I'd save the dog 99 times out of 100.

Let me guess, you don't have children.....

dustrpilot 09-09-2017 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 2427839)
Let me guess, you don't have children.....



Or eat meat...


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450knotOffice 09-09-2017 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 2427839)
Let me guess, you don't have children.....

Regardless your feeling of children, I like dogs better. Most kids are self centered *******s. But I bet you think yours aren't.

Yes, I'm cynical about humans, kids included. Some humans are awesome. Most are not. 53 years on this planet has proven that to me beyond a shadow of a doubt.

We are a self centered, cruel, despicable species as a whole.

Before you go writing me off as a miserable cynic, I'll let you know I'm a happy person around those few people I consider awesome human beings - those people who I call my friends, and my lovely wife of 30 years, an animal lover to the core. I also LOVE every moment of my time with my dogs. My dogs prove to me continuously that there is good in this world, even if it generally doesn't emanate from humans, or even despite us humans.

NEDude 09-09-2017 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 2428004)
Regardless your feeling of children, I like dogs better. Most kids are self centered *******s. But I bet you think yours aren't.

Yes, I'm cynical about humans, kids included. Some humans are awesome. Most are not. 53 years on this planet has proven that to me beyond a shadow of a doubt.

We are a self centered, cruel, despicable species as a whole.

Before you go writing me off as a miserable cynic, I'll let you know I'm a happy person around those few people I consider awesome human beings - those people who I call my friends, and my lovely wife of 30 years, an animal lover to the core. I also LOVE every moment of my time with my dogs. My dogs prove to me continuously that there is good in this world, even if it generally doesn't emanate from humans, or even despite us humans.

If, in 53 years, you have concluded that most humans are not "awesome", I submit that you have not looked very hard. In groups we are indeed capable of some despicable acts, but as individuals, the overwhelming majority of people are awesome. Perhaps you should get out a bit more often, talk to people, explore other cultures and other parts of the world.


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