Not really.

There is no ‘right to privacy.’ People often confuse the right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure (4th amendment) with some imagined right to privacy. ‘Expectation of privacy’ is an entirely different concept, and doesn’t rise to the level of being a right.

There are many ways around FB’s privacy settings. Law enforcement can easily get around them with a warrant, but there are many other ways. Anyone of your FB ‘friends’ can copy and repost anything, for example.

Another little-known gem is that clicking ‘I Agree’ when you install a game or an app resets all kinds of privacy settings, and all you info is now up for sale to any 3rd party willing to cough up a buck or two.

Of course I don’t mean to mischaracterize the whole generation, but many of the ones I know are just usesless as hell. Try getting any of them to mow a yard or paint a room.....

And come on, mommy and daddy paid for college-every cent.....

We all had it rough when we were starting out, but our expectations fit reality better. These snowflakes all want brand new cars and they want a closet full of 10k worth of clothes plus the latest 1k phone with contract.....

Every single millennial I know has had a cellphone less than a year old since they were in the 5th grade (or earlier,) and mommy has paid it plus the contract. Plus the new car. Every single one I know. (None of them has ever paid one cent toward their communication/internet surfing fun.)

There’s your house payment.

I never mentioned anything about rights. I mentioned an agreement between two parties (FB and its user.) And I agree, only a fool would allow an app access to all of your FB data.

A previous poster suggested the FAA could access your private FB data. That's tinfoil hat-level paranoia.

I’m not sure about the FAA, but I know someone who is a high level cyber security expert. A senior engineer in the field.

He said anything on FB or in an email should be considered public. Said you shouldn’t put anything there you wouldn’t want on a sign in your front yard. He’s the kind of guy who would know

I think FB sells a lot of stuff to shady 3rd parties. Ever notice how fast a terrorism suspect’s entire profile hits the news? That happens without a warrant.... And FB makes coin.

As far as the FAA, they do track down everything you have done for 48 to 72 hours prior to an accident or serious incident. Not sure how that works with social media, but they do look at credit card transactions, video surveillance and hotel room key history. That is very real.

Ah dont worry, Delta will still hire you with whatever crap you have on facebook. They like confederate flags.

Oh and dont tell anyone but they can only see what's on the National Driver Registry, so no need to self confess those little things that are on your record.

Wow. Well, the parents you know seem to be the problem, not the kids. Read what you wrote. The PARENTS. How can you yell about millennials over and over when clearly it’s parents who created the ones you seem to have so much vitriol for??

You should maybe broaden your friends. I know plenty of hard-working men and women in their 20s and 30s who are in heavy college debt and trying to make a living. I know others who were smart enough to get into a trade and make more money than I do with no debt.

Exactly.... the bad economics of the last (lost) decade was the fault of previous generations.


And the thievery is just now getting started too.

In the not-so-distant future the baby-boomer generation will begin to wholesale rob the younger generations to pay for their retirement. A true Ponzi scheme.

Any wonder millennials feel like they can't get ahead?

Actually the government is paying for most people's colleges these days, it is why it is so expensive. Government socializes the cost of education which causes prices to be raised.


Also, millenials have been told since they were in kindergarten "go to college and get a degree so that you don't have to work at McDonalds".... and then when many of them got out of college, McDonalds was the only job available to them.

It's for research only, they can't take action against you with that information. Even the NSA was allowing private companies to query private individuals in their database. Until the current administration put a stop to it, the airline could have pulled years worth of cell phone transcripts, telemetry data, emails, messages, etc. Totally unconstitutional, but it happened.

The parents are a major part of the issue..... but a lot of kids are playing mommy and daddy like a fiddle.

I can’t imagine ever shaking that much $$$$ our of my parents. I mean good God.

I’m glad you know some good ones. I can’t think of many. I totally agree about the trades. A guy with an HVAC cert would way out earn his peers quickly....

Boomers no longer constitute the majority of voters. ;)

https://www.aarp.org/politics-societ...torate-fd.html

Is this what you would call a troll?

Well, this thread went full APC....

I rightfully called you out on saying offensive things in private and then getting scared when a potential employer may find out and I got called troll, and millenial. (still don't understand out it's an insult, jcountry)

More on topic, I hope this is a lesson to you. You can hide and delete all you want, but if you post something on the internet, chances are it can still be dug up somewhere.

Maybe keep that in mind the next time you decide to share your racist and homophobic memes. Have a good day!

Very much so

I'm 31 and IMO those in my high school graduating class who skipped college and went with a trade are on average way further ahead than those of us who went to college, had to take out student loans, and had no chance at a modest income throughout our 20s. I know several guys in that boat who were able to take advantage of the housing downturn and buy cheap homes so that they could come out way ahead in equity and not have any amount of crushing college debt. That is huge for those wanting to settle down and start a family before they get on the other side of 35.

The question “troll much?” is a question regarding an action, not name-calling.

What’s my opinion? That’s right. You don’t know.

They need to lay off the Tide pods.

I still can't believe that actually became a thing among millennials :eek:

There is at least one case in front of Supreme court now regarding what Government can do.

Unfortunately it has already been established that Private companies can access pretty much anything you do with your electronic devices and credit cards and personal travel. I will admit that I don't know what level of "intent of use" they must have to acquire this data.
While I consider it outrageous, the only protection we have against a corporations intrusion is the US postal service. Electronic media, including emails, don't have this level of assumed privacy.

It’s all fair game.

Especially for those who haven’t been hired yet.

Much like credit reports. You can say ‘don’t check credit’ and they will very likely just move to the next guy. People with ****ed up credit won’t necessarily make bad employees-especially if they have had unusual financial challenges, vs those who’s mommy and daddy paid for everything.

I would just be careful on social media and stay away from politics and work. I can think of more than a couple of people in other industries who have gotten fired by posting really stupid stuff about customers and/or co workers. I do think a social media search is a pretty legit thing for a prospective employer to do. Stupid Facebook posts by employees can get them in legal trouble too.

Wait till the memo comes out tomorrow! 🤦

Those are Gen Z, not millennials...

shhh. let the grumpy baby boomers have their moment

Gen Zs is that what they are called? Z as in Zzzzzz because they are too lazy ;)

My guns and my money!!!!

Depends on where you want to live. Most of the "highly desirable" places have filled up, driving prices up. There are still parts of the country with plenty of room, low COL, and growing employment opportunities.

It's understandably a hard pill for kids who grew up in those areas and can't afford to stay.

I think you've touched on something substantial there. In previous generations people would move to where they needed to go to be successful. They might have a place they wanted to come back to, but that wasn't even secondary in their decisions. The current generation picks where they want to live and will accept nothing else.

Everything is a minefield even after you are hired! The world is full of baiters who are trolling for a reason to destroy other people they deem worthy of destruction. For every bakery who refused to bake a cake for the local lesbian wedding, their were 9 who offered to do so gladly, but the social justice warriors shopped until they could be suitably offended.

Social Media is full of people like this, so anything you tweet, retweet, or post can result in a letter writing campaign to end your career. ?Thus I relish and remain content in my roll as the "crazy uncle" at the Thanksgiving table, and nothing more.

Ah yes. The good old social media terrorist gangs and the Butthurt Brigades.

Social media terrorist groups (seems like an appropriate term for these folks) will ram their biases and beliefs down your throat, try to shame, destroy, and run you out of town if you differ with them. The modern version of the old-time lynch mob is alive and kicking in this disguised new format.

The Butthurt Brigades; well, they just love to spend all of their time (obviously don’t have much of a life) searching for anything that they can make into the “I am so butthurt” mode and then rant how holier than thou they are (which they are not). Then they employ the good old lynch mob process.

Yes folks. Once again, the old adage; “the more things change, the more they stay the same” seems most apt. .

No one is going in and reading your private messages on Facebook haha! That’s a ridiculous breach of privacy which is on a whole other level beyond employment checks. Lol

If we apply common sense, we would reach the conclusion that if Facebook was selling that type of access, a scandal would have erupted by now due to a leak somewhere, and Facebook would lose all sorts of business. Nah, the truth is that they need you, they need us to be wasting our time there. If they break that pact, someone else will rise up and replace them, and they don’t want that which is why you constantly see them tweaking their privacy settings and providing little tutorials for us on how to keep our accounts secure. Lol

Employers at most can see what your friends can see. That’s it.

Also, say if you follow certain pages and write comments on such pages, that remains public, this is for any public page, so if you lose your marbles and write an angry post on the Wal-Mart page, well that can pop up in the future, lol. Or if a friend of yours has their profile set to public, any comment you do on his page and any photos he puts up of you are also fair game.

A good tip to avoid anyone finding you is to use a different email for your Facebook login than the one you use for your resume and job applications. It might also be a good idea not to list your current city. Also, on the Facebook page, on the security tab, you can set it so that no one can find you via your email or phone number. On this tab you can also opt out of search engines linking to your profile. This is of course if your employer doesn’t straight out ask for your social media info. I’ve had this happen on non aviation related jobs, and I don’t know about the airlines since I’m just starting out.

Anyways, I myself I’m not super active on social media but as I’m late 20s I do post a few photos here and there of my travels and hobbies since for my generation it’s very strange when you have no social media presence...what a strange generation. Lol

Best of luck!

Dude what?

I hire people and I read your Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. I also check with people who know you. There is a lot of truth to the saying, it is who you know. If you don’t know anyone and you put dumb stuff on your Facebook, adios resume.

While I don’t hire airline pilots, I have taught more of you than I care to think about. Always excites me when people post a video of them violating some FAR on Facebook.

Don’t be stupid, good luck!

I said what I said. Read it again if you don't understand.

It cracks me up how many wannabe indcutees into the Charles Darwin Hall of Fame post on on media sites such as YouTube videos of themselves and their fellow crewmember in the cockpit especially below 10,000’ during Sterile Cockpit phase of flights. Yep... tuition can come at a high price.

This. Why would you not do at least a cursory online search? Or for a few bucks pay someone to do a thorough search... there are few to zero legal protections, and an outsourced background check provider would know all the loopholes and hacks.

As others have said, in your online life avoid right-leaning politics, extremist politics of any sort, drugs, crime, reckless behavior, insensitivity to diversity, or any insensitivity of any sort.

That last is important, some airlines are trying to enhance customer experience and that starts with front-line employees. They (understandably) want pilots to present at a minimum the people skills and empathy of a receptionist at a high-end white-collar office.

All good points. I’m no longer on Facebook, but remember numerous “friends” posting combative political articles and engaging in arguments with their “friends”. It sure was easy to know what to do when asked by these “friends” for a letter of rec. I’d say I ignored maybe 7-10 requests all due to very poor behavior on Facebook. I know I wasn’t the only one to do the same.

Wait... you can’t even be a Republican anymore??
That’s taking it too far.

(I don’t post anything political).

Understand your target audience. HR people...

Fine. But you are lumping ALL Republicans into the white-pride, biggot, anti-LGBT basket. Not all are Mike Pence. Many are simply fiscally conservative folks who attend church on Sunday.
Oh, I guess people shouldn’t post that they attend church, either?

It’s simple.
Don’t post hateful or insensitive comments. Be nice.
If HR truly wants a diverse group wouldn’t they hire Republicans? Or is “diverse” just Democrats and minorities?
SMH.