Lol. Obviously being a Republican isn't "mainstream" online. Get mad at him all you want but he's right.

You're shooting the messenger. Just my observations, I didn't say I was happy about it. Feel free to disregard.

Who can keep track of all the triggers that SJWs will attack you over? I deleted 99% of my online footprint after I saw what was coming years ago.

You’re right. Sorry.
It’s just ridiculous.

I'm a self-disclosing belligerent troll. My primary use of social media has been maximum inflammation for my own comedic satisfaction, usually directed at my friend group who are mostly just as uncaring as I am.


I still got hired. Take from that what you will. I honestly think social media is less important than people think it is.

I think your digital footprint is something to keep in mind, but not stress too much over. Every one of us that has a Facebook account/a Twitter account/a MySpace account/an Instagram account has probably posted something somewhere that someone somewhere could be offended by.

Personally, I'd be more concerned about whoever your current employer is snooping through your social media. My previous employer had a lot of "rats" who would add you as a friend, then run to the CP and HR if you posted something disparaging about the company or any management people. You couldn't trust anyone.

I haven't deleted my FB page, but I'm very inactive on there now. It's a huge time suck and just not worth it. I'm sick of seeing everyone post their perfect life, their travels, their Brussels Sprouts they made, kids kids kids, and political opinions that no one asked for and don't change anyone's mind.

I don't actually add anyone to my FB that I work with, so that solves that problem. Also I never disparage my employer or give too many details about my specific gig on Facebook. Besides, disparaging an employer makes you look bad to future potential employers.

If people do those two things, it will go a long way to being protected.

It's not the end-all, be-all, but once it's out there you can never take it back. I would say aggressive social-media vetting by airlines is a very recent thing, last couple of years. Also have heard of recruiters asking you to friend them... that may become the norm, and there's absolutely no recourse on your part but to comply (unless you want your job prospects for that employer to end at that time).

For those who are not at their career-destination, and have not already created a non-politically correct online presence, it's probably in your best interest to tread lightly.

Yep.

Social media is definitely a force multiplier for *******s.

That really comes close,.if not already crosses an invasion of privacy line.

If a recruiter asks, why not just hide/deactivate your FB page until you are hired and tell him/her you don't have one.

How will they know if it's hidden/deactivated?

Call the supreme court, complain that your constitutional right to privacy is being violated! I Got Rights!

Oh wait... that doesn't exist.

There are some statutory protections but (similar to the 1st. Amendment) those protect your from the government, not from potential employers.

The precedent is that employers can do all the research on you which they like (some state laws set limits on consideration of things like criminal records and bankruptcy). Looking at social media falls under that by default.

This is actually just another example of technology getting way far out ahead of of legal and cultural systems. You think that's bad, do know what Big Data knows (and shares) about you? And what they hope to do with that data? Siri will know what you want without you even asking...

There is no expectation of privacy for anything online. Especially social media stuff.

There are data aggregators like Experian or equifax which can spot all these accounts. And everything you ever post is archived. I mean everything.

I don’t do a lot of social media stuff. Who cares what I ate? Or what I got my cat for Christmas???

In general, it’s a good idea to avoid anything controversial on FB. You are just gonna **** off a bunch of your friends with stupid stuff you never would discuss in person. What’s the point?

Sorry, I should have made my previous post more clear....

While there is no question that this is legal according to the letter of the law, doesn't make it the RIGHT thing to do.

There are a lot of actions that are not against the law, but are still wrong. I mean, if I were to talk smack about your kids, that's certainly not against the law, but I sure as hell know you would not take kindly to it, and rightfully so.

Just to clarify, because I think I left this ambiguous in my previous post.....

I have no problem with any employer searching for my presence online......what I DO take issue with on the other hand is said employers asking to "friend" you on social media as a condition of being considered for employment.

Again while that is certainly not illegal, myself and I'm sure many many others think it's absolutely morally wrong and inappropriate etiquette.

Your post was fine, I was trying to highlight the underlying issue... tech has outpaced the legal system, and the cultural system.

But if you're looking for ethical behavior from employers, you may be in the wrong industry.

The sad thing is that these days, the airlines are probably the most ethical of employers.

Ethical is a really wide playing field. I would guess that most of what we call "ethical treatment" by airlines is because of a rigorously enforced PWA. Airlines are no different than any other major corporation, with the major exception of an educated work force that stands united.

Jet Blue is a perfect example. Nice product, good reputation with passengers, full of blue juice. They seem to think their stuff doesn't stink and they treated their pilots so poorly that they decided to unionize.

All I know is...the more of you bozos that rip Delta Pilot Recruitings Facebook page a new one for not giving you a ticket to the career fair...the better for me!!!

Wow...

People actually do that??

(Wait. It’s FB..... I’m not too surprised by anything I see there.)

Got lost after page 5. Just wanted to mention my Facebook, Twitter,and Instagram are all of a picture of me due to a bet I lost last year. Damn you Cowboys! We did it in watts instead of Harlem as I live our west now. It was close to the opening scene of Die Hard w Vengeance. Start class at a major next month.

That is not true at all.

Correct.

I'd also add to watch what you post at APC. The extremist nutjobs here expose themselves pretty quickly, and would be not difficult to see them having difficulty interacting with a broad segment of society as required in many jobs (see 'triggered' posts above. :rolleyes:)

In my field there is the same concerns - nobody will go through your pages to see if you had a beer at age 20.5, but if you continually post crap about ANY group of people or extremist 'political' opinions on either side, you are setting yourself up to be at an extreme disadvantage, and rightly so.

Or, just don't believe that crap to begin with and be a decent person. If you can stand by your posts in public, you have little to worry about.

At least one regional tried and successfully ID'd me prior to an interview. Careful what you post in public.

What happened?

Very curious to hear what happened and how you found out they ID'd you.

Well for starters I was dumb and had my email very similar to my username. So I made it pretty easy for them. During the HR portion right after I answered the question “why us” they pulled out a print out of a negative comment I had made about their contract. Needless to say it caught me by surprise.

So just be careful and always remember there is no such thing as anonymous on the Internet. I’d say a general rule of thumb is to not lost anything you wouldn’t say in front of anyone in person.

You get the job?

Not sure yet.

hHaahahahahahaHAHAha

I get the sense that some of them live for that kind of stuff. Hopefully they need you more than you need them.

Considering it’s a regional I would say that is almost certainly the case lol!

Yup. I’ll bet the person who pulled that out was up all night excited to do it. TOTD.

What a bush league sector of the industry. And I thought part 91/small fry 135 was ad hoc. He'll get the job too in spite of that HR grandstanding. #Ican't

Damn that would have confounded me as well. That's USAF survival training crap right there, straight out of the Limnadians playbook.

So what did you get your cat for Xmas?

“Thank you for your answer of why us. We’d just like to go over this one thing... [pulls out paper with APC post]. You wrote this about our contract! How dare you Sir. We here at ABC regional do not tolerate this kind of behavior, and hire only the best of the best who show up to interview......




So can you start Monday?”

Mine just does a cat scan of the house and takes what he wants. :D

My vet did that with my late dog. He was motionless and not breathing. I took him to the vet. The vet said my dog was dead.

I said, are you sure? He said let me run a more sophisticated test. He opened the door. In walked a feline, circled my dog 3 times, and walked out. No response.

I got my bill. Office visit, deceased dog $50. Second opinion, CAT scan $25.

It is an old joke, but worth it!

That’s exactly what I thought! And by the way, one of many reasons I don’t use social media (LinkedIn being the one exception).

If you're a SM addict (not to be confused with S&M...keep that private) you're gonna be viewed. I deleted my FB account before applying. Not that I think I did anything wrong, but some of the "friends" I had posted some questionable material. Guilt by association? Not for me. Not when I really wanted this job. YMMV.

The amount of legacy retirements exceed the current number regional pilots (give or take).

Unless you are a complete and utter moron, who posts racist or politically charged BS all the time, chill out. Seriously.

At almost every airline it is a complete lottery ticket to even be selected by the computer/algorithm for an interview.

I’m 10 years into this career. I’m at my 3rd airline now (one on my top 3 list). I have certainly posted or shared some dumb BS at some point in time on SM (show me someone who hasn’t). I’ve gotten 3 different airline jobs and never been asked once about anything.

I have lots of friends in the 9-5 corporate America world. SM is a big deal in that spectrum. The airlines? I’ve yet to meet anyone in this brotherhood who’s been told to F off because of what they posted on FB.

Again if your an idiot online that’s one thing, but most people act like the decent people they are. YMMV

Agreed by a lot. Put some numbers to it.

Over the next 20 years, US majors retirements will be about 50,000.

The amount of hiring over those next 20 years, all of North America is estimated at 90,000 per Boeing. This is retirements, attrition, and growth.

There are 20,000 regional pilots. Old rule of thumb is 10% lifers. That means 18,000 regional pilots interested in moving up.

Even if Boeing’s forecast is on the high side. (I don’t think it is.) — it just kind of takes one’s breath away.

A lot of new hires will have to get hired by the regionals and move up, or get hired directly by the majors like they did several decades ago.