Maintaining a minimum monthly credit?
04-08-2018 | 07:48 PM
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Lineholders only. It's what is called "Posted Sequences" for other pilots to pick up. Weekday turns and 2-days are easiest to dump, but even the 2-days are such garbage anymore it's not a sure gig'.
The "good old days" would have you dropping a 2 leg/2-day with a late afternoon/evening departure to some place like Cali or Barbados followed by one leg home and done by noon. One could dump those 1 day after bids close. Those trips disappeared. Now, if you depart later than 10am on the first day, count on returning past 8pm on the second for close to the same pay.
Reserve days can't be dropped. Whatever you're awarded, you eat. I've never heard of anyone trading Reserve Days either.
04-08-2018 | 08:11 PM
#12
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From: B756 FO
That minimum (50 hrs) has been around for a very long time - going back to at least C2003 IIRC. In the current contract, C2013, you'll find it listed in 20-P-1-h. The reason why you haven't seen it enforced until recently is because in the left column next to 20-P, it states: Full Implementation TBD by the JIT. Looks like they've now implemented the section below.
You could probably drop below 50 hrs with scheduling or Chief Pilot office coordination.
20-P-1-h Without Company concurrence, a schedule modification request shall be denied if
it causes the sum of the Lineholder’s Flying Hours and Nonflying Hours, as defined in
Section 5-B-2-b, to be below fifty (50) hours.
You could probably drop below 50 hrs with scheduling or Chief Pilot office coordination.
20-P-1-h Without Company concurrence, a schedule modification request shall be denied if
it causes the sum of the Lineholder’s Flying Hours and Nonflying Hours, as defined in
Section 5-B-2-b, to be below fifty (50) hours.
Out of curiosity have they addressed the awful programming yet for guys trying trade their high credit trips for the same trip just on a different day?
I recall hearing pilot A trying to trade his 28 hour Sydney trip on the 3rd for Pilot B’s Sydney on the 4th. The system was denying the trade because it saw pilot A’s credit dropping below 50 hours and did not take into account pilot A wouls be getting 28 hours right back from pilot B’s trade.
04-09-2018 | 04:18 AM
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From: Boeing voice activated systems and ACARS commander
United recently put into place a 50 hour floor of flying/non flying credit. It has really had a negative impact on trading/dropping trips. A lot of pilots, myself included would drop down to 30ish hours and then as the month goes on pick up/trade into trips that worked better for whatever reasons, be it more productive trips, better report/release, etc.
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04-09-2018 | 05:38 AM
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04-09-2018 | 06:11 AM
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We also have 1 Authorized Drop per year, you can use it, but you can not pick any open time those days.
04-09-2018 | 08:09 AM
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Thanks for filling in the extra details I left out. I knew it was agreed upon just hoped the day didn’t come for full implementation. Amazing timing just as we gear up for negotiations might I add.
Out of curiosity have they addressed the awful programming yet for guys trying trade their high credit trips for the same trip just on a different day?
I recall hearing pilot A trying to trade his 28 hour Sydney trip on the 3rd for Pilot B’s Sydney on the 4th. The system was denying the trade because it saw pilot A’s credit dropping below 50 hours and did not take into account pilot A wouls be getting 28 hours right back from pilot B’s trade.
Out of curiosity have they addressed the awful programming yet for guys trying trade their high credit trips for the same trip just on a different day?
I recall hearing pilot A trying to trade his 28 hour Sydney trip on the 3rd for Pilot B’s Sydney on the 4th. The system was denying the trade because it saw pilot A’s credit dropping below 50 hours and did not take into account pilot A wouls be getting 28 hours right back from pilot B’s trade.
As far as large block hour trades, I hadn't had any problems doing them but I never checked to see if they temporarily took me below 50 hrs. I know that I traded away a 49+ hr trip for the exact same trip starting on another day without any issues a couple of months ago - that definitely took me below 50 hrs temporarily.
I keep reading stories of guys at UAL who have a hard time trading. I have had hardly any trading issues that I can think of - of course, holidays are always difficult.
04-09-2018 | 12:38 PM
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