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Old 05-03-2018 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Hilltopper89
I don’t have time to call all 10 million of my state’s constituents.
Lucky me ... Only 3 million
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Old 05-03-2018 | 04:30 PM
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Another attack on our profession coming. I would suggest calling your states constituents to garner their support in putting this to bed. If air commerce is so important that we can’t strike at whim, it should be so important that we won’t allow “barnstormers” to carry passengers without appropriate certification.
Why do you hate freedom?
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Old 05-07-2018 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
Why do you hate freedom?
I don’t think they hate freedom. Rather, asking ourselves how far freedom goes? Should someone have the right to intentionally harm someone else? Most would say no (variety of reasons). Well now the question becomes: if there is a very high probability that someone will hurt someone else, should we permit that? Again I think the answer is no.

The older I get, the more I see in aviation, the more I realize experience is best way to safer flying (though not foolproof).
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Old 05-07-2018 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by NeverHome
I don’t think they hate freedom. Rather, asking ourselves how far freedom goes? Should someone have the right to intentionally harm someone else? Most would say no (variety of reasons). Well now the question becomes: if there is a very high probability that someone will hurt someone else, should we permit that? Again I think the answer is no.
Disconnect, two obviously different issues.

Intentionally harming someone is one thing, someone engaging in voluntarily risky behavior is another.
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Old 05-07-2018 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
Disconnect, two obviously different issues.

Intentionally harming someone is one thing, someone engaging in voluntarily risky behavior is another.
That distinction gets pretty thin if the "voluntary risk" applies to passengers who probably didn't volunteer for it...
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Old 05-07-2018 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That distinction gets pretty thin if the "voluntary risk" applies to passengers who probably didn't volunteer for it...
In Sonic’s libertarian utopia, every citizen has his own lawyer to examine every contract he encounters in life. And performs his own due diligence and risk assessment before engaging in any activity. Because we can’t trust the government for any of this stuff, freedom and all.
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Old 05-10-2018 | 11:26 AM
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I don't have any issue with this.
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Old 05-11-2018 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Not worried. Would it be abused? Yes, people will try. But no way you could break even on this, much less get an ROI on PPL training.

After some get-there-itis fatalities, either congress will kill it or the media will do an expose. I'm starting to think the flying public needs to be given a little more rope... end result will be they'll appreciate us professionals more.
I agree that profit in the traditional sense won't be worthwhile in this endeavor. What I see is a lot of low time pilots using it as a cheaper alternative to get to 1500. How safely they can do it is the open question.
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Old 05-12-2018 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by aeroengineer
I agree that profit in the traditional sense won't be worthwhile in this endeavor. What I see is a lot of low time pilots using it as a cheaper alternative to get to 1500. How safely they can do it is the open question.
What’s the difference if they pay $$$ per hour on their own versus sharing to build the hours. Safety and judgement or lack thereof has no boundaries.
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Old 05-13-2018 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
What’s the difference if they pay $$$ per hour on their own versus sharing to build the hours. Safety and judgement or lack thereof has no boundaries.


If I can put me and 3 non-pilot college buddies in a Cherokee Six and wander the country then the only thing I'm sharing is cost and not the flight time. With an online board I could repeat with trips to any spring break destination with a new set of "friends" each week. At least that's how I see it.

I completely agree with your assertion that safety and judgment or lack thereof has no boundaries. It appears Europe is doing something similar and as far as I can tell hasn't had any major issues but we'll see.
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