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Gman 04-09-2007 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Dark Knight (Post 145168)
So hypothetically speaking.....

Let's say a guy washed out of a military flight program. Does this effectively kill his/her chances of working for a major airline?

Thanks,

DK

Not as long as he gets on with a unionized carrier. They will protect incompetent pilots as long as they pay their dues.

GasPasser 04-09-2007 11:37 AM

I know of a USAF pilot a few years back who got drummed out of the USAF because she committed adultery, refused to follow orders (was told to stop), thumbed her nose at the UCMJ, lacked moral character, ethics.....yada yada yada. Received a less than honorable discharge, and still got on with a major box carrier. Yet this same employer turns away dozens of other pilots with no transgressions. Go figure!

CVG767A 04-09-2007 11:44 AM

Gman, when you're in the process of being hired by a major airline, you don't actually have the protection of the union; in fact, you're not really protected until after your first (probation) year.

I've never seen the union protect an incompetent pilot. Very few incompetent pilots make it through the hiring process, at least at major airlines. What a union will do, is protect a pilot who does what he feels is the right thing do to, even if is not what his employer wants him to do.

I've calmed down many nervous passengers over the years, merely by telling them that nothing, or no one, can make me operate a flight when I think it's unsafe to do so. Can a non-union pilot do that? Not likely, especially if his five-year contract is up for renewal.

I'm not sure whether you're stupid or naive.

SC-7 04-09-2007 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by GasPasser (Post 146448)
I know of a USAF pilot a few years back who got drummed out of the USAF because she committed adultery, refused to follow orders (was told to stop), thumbed her nose at the UCMJ, lacked moral character, ethics.....yada yada yada. Received a less than honorable discharge, and still got on with a major box carrier. Yet this same employer turns away dozens of other pilots with no transgressions. Go figure!

Hey, she got a bad rap. I've been told it says so right there in her book.

Who did she end up flying for?

JoeyMeatballs 04-09-2007 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 146257)
THis guy got his wings, but was unable to make it through the P3 RAG due to some ego/ attitude issues (something to due with his handling of an actual inflight emergency). He was kept by the Navy for about six months before being booted. CAL hired him for their Guam base. His first name is Neil, if that rings any bells.

oohhhhhh He's perfect for CAL, hahah:rolleyes:

reddog25 04-09-2007 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Gman (Post 146389)
Not as long as he gets on with a unionized carrier. They will protect incompetent pilots as long as they pay their dues.

Man u are so stupid.....................:cool:

JoeyMeatballs 04-09-2007 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 146522)
Man u are so stupid.....................:cool:

Come on.........you can't say that there are some pilots that are flying 121 that probably shouldn't be because he/she did something wacky, but because of the union they are still around?:o

GasPasser 04-09-2007 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by SC-7 (Post 146457)
Hey, she got a bad rap. I've been told it says so right there in her book.

Who did she end up flying for?

Being that it is not public knowledge as far as I know, I'd rather not say.

But this is public knowledge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Flinn

I didn't know she wrote a book, it would be interesting to see how she spun it.

SC-7 04-09-2007 04:34 PM

You really didn't know she wrote a book? First time I've heard that.

Anyway, here you go:

http://www.amazon.com/Proud-Be-Life-.../dp/0375501096

I'm sure it's riveting.

JoeyMeatballs 04-09-2007 04:38 PM

"Kelly Flinn might have been a fine pilot, but she's not much of a writer."


hahaha thats the review she got, hahaha her book is $3.99 :p


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