[Breeze] Airways
#2791
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I read a bit on the airport and IF Breeze is able to execute, the plan makes sense. IF.
The local govt has been trying to expand HPN since at least 2017, but has met resistance from those that live near the airport. The expansion includes a parking garage.
I don't know the current status of the proposed expansion; it sounded like it still needed environmental surveys/approval.
But yes, from reading passenger reviews, the commercial terminal sounds like a dump.
One hurdle is the airport's commercial passenger capacity limitation of 240 passengers per half hour and four gate positions. This is increased during peak holiday travel periods. That sounds like a problem when there is inclement weather; I don't know if the limit is based on scheduled or actual traffic.
If Breeze executes in HPN as poorly as they have elsewhere (based on the reviews and data I've read), I would expect most passengers to avoid Breeze's product at HPN. The passengers that they will be catering to are very demanding, as is the rest of NYC area passengers. I do not enjoy flying in and out of the NYC area.
I don't know the current status of the proposed expansion; it sounded like it still needed environmental surveys/approval.
But yes, from reading passenger reviews, the commercial terminal sounds like a dump.
One hurdle is the airport's commercial passenger capacity limitation of 240 passengers per half hour and four gate positions. This is increased during peak holiday travel periods. That sounds like a problem when there is inclement weather; I don't know if the limit is based on scheduled or actual traffic.
If Breeze executes in HPN as poorly as they have elsewhere (based on the reviews and data I've read), I would expect most passengers to avoid Breeze's product at HPN. The passengers that they will be catering to are very demanding, as is the rest of NYC area passengers. I do not enjoy flying in and out of the NYC area.

#2792

I think the underserved market secondary idea has some serious traction if done right (reliable, frequency). EWR, LGA, JFK, LAX, etc at rush hours are a nightmare. I used to commute to NYC, took me longer to take a cab from LGA to JFK than my commute flight to LGA 😳 In another life used to drive 25 miles further to MKE than ORD because the drive was quicker and the airport so much easier. Those big market airports are not getting less crowded either…
#2793
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I read a bit on the airport and IF Breeze is able to execute, the plan makes sense. IF.
The local govt has been trying to expand HPN since at least 2017, but has met resistance from those that live near the airport. The expansion includes a parking garage.
I don't know the current status of the proposed expansion; it sounded like it still needed environmental surveys/approval.
But yes, from reading passenger reviews, the commercial terminal sounds like a dump.
One hurdle is the airport's commercial passenger capacity limitation of 240 passengers per half hour and four gate positions. This is increased during peak holiday travel periods. That sounds like a problem when there is inclement weather; I don't know if the limit is based on scheduled or actual traffic.
If Breeze executes in HPN as poorly as they have elsewhere (based on the reviews and data I've read), I would expect most passengers to avoid Breeze's product at HPN. The passengers that they will be catering to are very demanding, as is the rest of NYC area passengers. I do not enjoy flying in and out of the NYC area.
The local govt has been trying to expand HPN since at least 2017, but has met resistance from those that live near the airport. The expansion includes a parking garage.
I don't know the current status of the proposed expansion; it sounded like it still needed environmental surveys/approval.
But yes, from reading passenger reviews, the commercial terminal sounds like a dump.
One hurdle is the airport's commercial passenger capacity limitation of 240 passengers per half hour and four gate positions. This is increased during peak holiday travel periods. That sounds like a problem when there is inclement weather; I don't know if the limit is based on scheduled or actual traffic.
If Breeze executes in HPN as poorly as they have elsewhere (based on the reviews and data I've read), I would expect most passengers to avoid Breeze's product at HPN. The passengers that they will be catering to are very demanding, as is the rest of NYC area passengers. I do not enjoy flying in and out of the NYC area.
If passengers can get away from the major airports that have become a stressful nightmare with more people flying, they’ll do it and they’ll keep flying whoever can make that happen for them. Not to mention the cramped and abysmal service that legacies offer once you finally make it onboard. People of HPN are all about whoever can save them time. Time is money right??
#2794
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When they say LAX, don't they mean San Bernadino? I thought I read that's where they're going into. Um can you say Ghetto. If these are truly higher income people they are attempting to lure, those people are in for a rude awakening. Ontario is about the furthest East you would want to go and it's still an hours drive to the coast.
#2795
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When they say LAX, don't they mean San Bernadino? I thought I read that's where they're going into. Um can you say Ghetto. If these are truly higher income people they are attempting to lure, those people are in for a rude awakening. Ontario is about the furthest East you would want to go and it's still an hours drive to the coast.
#2796
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We didn’t even mention the mounds of bizjets and fracs that are based there. They also get center delays just like the big 3. The terminal will never get built. The super rich that have estates around it will block it for decades to come. This was an issue 15 years ago, same as today
#2797
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I think the underserved market secondary idea has some serious traction if done right (reliable, frequency). EWR, LGA, JFK, LAX, etc at rush hours are a nightmare. I used to commute to NYC, took me longer to take a cab from LGA to JFK than my commute flight to LGA 😳 In another life used to drive 25 miles further to MKE than ORD because the drive was quicker and the airport so much easier. Those big market airports are not getting less crowded either…
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