Originally Posted by bonvoyage

You can’t argue with people on APC. Just let them act like they are getting the win in the argument and move on. I remember sitting standby reserve in the crew room, commuting and being away from home 15+ nights a month. You gotta do something to make yourself “feel” superior.

I find it fascinating that so many people come on the Breeze forum and try and convince Breeze pilots that it’s so bad. This is my third airline, and BY FAR the best QOL and money for the little amount of work it is. All we do is fly an airplane for a job. You think I’d be better off 1 or 2 leg commuting to some giant city I don’t wanna even be in, overnighting places I don’t want to overnight, and flying with old crusty captains I don’t want to fly with? All for what? Maybe 5 years down the road “break even” to what I’m making now?? Where will breeze be at by then? What if the age 70 law passed? How’s all that seniority list movement gonna look for you at UAL/DAL/AA? Guess what, I’ve seen it first hand to a family member when it went to 65, you’re gonna stagnate. For a LONG time. I’ll never come on here and say someone went wrong for going to a legacy, but let’s keep our head out of our as$es and understand all we do is fly a plane for a living. You think making 275k a year, rather than 250k is really gonna push you over the edge?

Originally Posted by bonvoyage

I didn’t even notice that you were once at Breeze! Yea there was definitely a lot of smoke and mirrors (still is), but I have faith that the market will continue to determine work rules, pay, QOL. The only thing we are really missing is 401k. And while I’m still very young, I feel it’s a risk worth taking. A legacy job will never be a bad choice. But also, for me, I’ll make right at 220k (my first year) for 2022, and I see my kids every day/night. Each is their own to pick what works best for you. But I enjoy it right now. Let’s hope it stays that way

Originally Posted by I was inverted

$275k? Who makes that little? I don’t think there are many major captains under $300k these days. But the real issue is 401k. Do the math with compounding interest on 16-18% 401k @ $300-$400k major income vs 4% @ $300k breeze income.

and 5 years to break even? Id like to see the math on that one. DL/UA have 1 year upgrades. You leave for delta tomorrow, you’d be a 220 737 or 320 captain and on year 2 pay you’d be making $315-$325/hr, plus PS, plus 17-18% 401k. 5 years. whatever you need to tell yourself.

Originally Posted by shortspatula

You sound like you’re at the corner of a gate area waiting out your airport reserve. It’s not all about APC pay-rates. That new Captain at delta is likely commuting cross country or is stuck in New York somewhere. Anyways, most of the pilots here are already captains, street captains or are about to be captains. Why leave to lose potently being top % seniority and be an FO somewhere when in 6 to 12 months the pay will already close to matching the other places. We only have around 350+ pilots now it’s a tiny number compared to legacies, the ones coming here have specific reasons still.

Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER

Lmao. Are you seriously posing the question of “why leave Breeze for a legacy job”?

Originally Posted by shortspatula

Then just leave, nobody is stopping you. Makes it so much better to fly with people that want to be there.

Originally Posted by Flamarca94

Sorry if this has been asked before but just looking for opinions on what you would do. Home based at a regional vs commuting to breeze? End goal would be United if that makes any difference

Originally Posted by ImSoSuss

I would not consider Breeze a destination to become a commuter for. Especially after the latest pay hikes at the Regionals.

Originally Posted by shortspatula

You sound like you’re at the corner of a gate area waiting out your airport reserve. It’s not all about APC pay-rates. That new Captain at delta is likely commuting cross country or is stuck in New York somewhere. Anyways, most of the pilots here are already captains, street captains or are about to be captains. Why leave to lose potentially being top % seniority to be an FO somewhere when in 6 to 12 months the pay will already be close to matching the other places. Not to mention potentially a new contract. We only have around 350+ pilots now it’s a tiny number compared to legacies, the ones coming here have specific reasons still.