Days off = golden
 

3rd year Spirit FO
W-2 $107,300
Dropped March, July & December for travels
Remaining nine months avg 17 days-off

11 year SWA
6 months FO, 6 month CA
$282,000 - W2

Year 4 CA pay @ 75 dollars at PSA . So you would have had to average roughly 135 hours of credit a month, to reach 120k . Pretty impressive .... :D

1st/2nd year Omni 76 FO
3 mos old contract/9 months new
Extra trips picked up in 4 months
Avg 12 days off a month
W-2 $107,400

There needs to be more ACMI on this thread

Ok.

Omni 1st year FO.
$130.8K
$13.0K per diem
$143.8K total compensation (excluding company 401K matching).

Averaged 11 days off per month.
8 months of extra trips totaling 32 days of OT work.
13 of those were involuntary (held out by the company). 19 days were voluntary.

Atlas, $52,931

*4 months of initial training pay
*6 months of regular pay, 1st year 747
*No VX days or extensions

Not gonna say I regret coming here, since no one else is knocking my door down. It is what it is, and hopefully FedEx or UPS call soon.

What equipment are you on? Did you include training pay or is that minimal? TIA

777. Jan was training pay, Feb OE, Mar on old contract, April-Dec new contract. Nov/Dec 2nd year pay.

Any Netjets guys/gals?

Spirit FO year 1/2

new contract ratified end of Feb
$104,747 gross (most of which was from Mar-Dec)
Approx $10k company DC (Mar-Dec)
16-17 days off
Dropped most of January and February due to the embarrassingly low old first year pay rate
Left about $25k-30k on the table due to commuting and not being able to ride the X/Y list premium pay gravy train

2019 has been all reserve (by choice), living in domicile, and I've worked a grand total of 1 day so far this year.

FedEx 777 FO
15+yr

$364,700 2018 W2

8yr JB 320 FO

I'd post the numbers, but after reading all 42 pages, well, I'm too embarrassed.

I do appreciate this thread though and don't at all see it as Richard measuring.

Your pay might be lower but I’m willing to bet the farm that you have phonomenal seniority/QOL as an 8 yr FO

It's not bad QOL, but that's literally because I have high right seat seniority, because I've bypassed junior Capt. Looking at the pairings our junior FOs hold (really bad) and JB has slowed growth so much an FO hired today won't be where I am after 8 years.

Good news is that about when our retirements start. Or within a year or so.

What's your seniority in base/seat? I'm going to guess 10-15%

Actually not that good. The upper 20% of the A320 right seat will NOT move. The last several bids I've actually gone backwards a little each time.

Very nice. You fly a lot of OT/premium?

Yeah, year 13 Phenom CA $159,000 W2. Missed about 2 months for a surgery so I lost 40% pay for 2 months. CC60 schedule.
Highest paid Phenom pilots in the world, but I'm chomping at the bit to get back to the airlines.

United States Marine Corps 6 year Captain (rank, not cockpit position)
-KC-130J Aircraft Commander (3 months) co-pilot (9 months)

Total income: $102,000 direct
Per diem: $N/A
Company 401k (aka TSP): 5% match

Total Compensation: $126,000 including all benefits

Total block time: 200 hours

Average days off: NA

200 hours in c-130’s? What the hell?

Also, since when is there a TSP match? New retirement system?

Yep, new military retirement system goes back to 2% annual defined benefit (ie 40% of high 3 after 20yrs) + 1-5% into TSP as contribution/match so that if you leave before 20, you get to take something along....

https://www.military.com/benefits/mi...explained.html

I was thinking the same thing. Sounds like a year in a fighter not a herk.

I think the marine 130s were grounded some this year. I’m betting that’s why the low hours. They had to fix the issue of the props coming off.

There could be many reasons for the low hours in the military. He may have had PME that took a few months time, deployment into a non flying staff position, injury, etc. The point is whether he flew 1000 hours or 200, the pay is the same.

How did you get the $102,000 number? The pay charts show $69,504 so I’m curious what I missed

You all had pretty good theories, many of which are usually correct. In my case, it was a non-deploying year which equates to not flying a lot unless you are a tactics instructor.

Deployed years you probably get around 400 hours, non-deployed 250.

A lot of different factors:

-Pay Entry Base Date and Active Duty Base Date are two different things. I.e. you could’ve started Officer Candidate School during college (Pay Entry Base Date Year) but only start active duty after college. So you could have 6 years of active duty but your pay is for an 8 year rank.
-Flight Pay earns you another ~$150-$800/month
-Basic Allowance for Housing can add another ~$800-$4000/month. I’m on the lower end for my location.
-Other random pay (language, special skills, etc)

End of year salary survey
 

SWA 3rd Year FO Pay
230,000 W-2
30,000 NEC
25,000 Profit sharing

285k Total Compensation

Live in domicile
Work 15 days a month
Golf 15 days a month

Blocked 730 hours

I was making 144,000 my last 2 years in the military overseas before I retired. Basic pay is less than 60% of your total pay.

Who GAF what your pay is other than airlines?

I doubt anybody here is considering jumping ship FROM the airlines to a mil job. Isn’t that the point of this thread?

I find it interesting.

good money but a lot of block time. my rear end can't handle that much seat time.

In my opinion Southwest pilots have one of the most flexible schedules in the industry since we don’t use PBS. You have so many options to giveaway trips and trade trips with other pilots and also trade with the company. I never have a problem getting the days off I need. The actual schedule I end up flying at the end of the month doesn’t even resemble my line that I was awarded. The best thing at SWA is that you can have a great QOL or make a ton of money or anywhere in between. Living in domicile you make about 40% more than a commuter also.

Someone mentioned earlier that every airline has trip trade and giveaway options. And premium pickups etc.

I suspect at every airline it’s easier to make more money living in domicile.

It’s not PBS or line bidding that makes the schedule flexible-they’re both just bidding tools/means. It’s the post-bidding options that makes the schedule flexible-and again, every airline now has those options.

What they don’t have is the SWA ability to break up trips or vacation override.

Or the ability to drop to zero in many cases

I definitely envy the schedule flexibility that you guys have at Southwest

I think AA can now drop to zero (not 100% certain). UA started it about a year ago. Not sure about Delta or Spirit.
Spirit just got PBS last year

NK: We can, but are limited by reserve grid, company has to keep reserve 75% green.