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flyboy2181 05-09-2021 10:20 AM
Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3231775)
that wildly depends on your age. If you are under 40 you will probably get to widebody CA.
yup. That’s why age matters when these questions are asked.

and nobody can predict an airlines business model or future aircraft purchases 20+ years from now. Business models change. CEO change. Businesses and countries change. Any talk about an airline 20+ years from now is pure speculation.

ZeroTT 05-09-2021 12:44 PM
Originally Posted by Me Air Da (Post 3232752)
That’s funny you claim that. The last bid at Dal awarded a 5 year pilot 75/76 CA.
which is awesome for those prescient enough to get hired by delta in 2016. However many thousand hired since then will offer a different landscape to DL newhires today

Milksheikh 05-09-2021 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by Me Air Da (Post 3232752)
That’s funny you claim that. The last bid at Dal awarded a 5 year pilot 75/76 CA. So unless the 767 has decided it no longer chooses to identify as a widebody, (which we should respect how it feels). Then I would say the information that you received from whatever flight attendant or van driver is irrelevant and untrue.
Are you talking about the planes that pay slightly more than a 737? Do those guys/gals also get to fly the 764 that actually has widebody pay rates?

Gone Flying 05-09-2021 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by flyboy2181 (Post 3232778)
yup. That’s why age matters when these questions are asked.

and nobody can predict an airlines business model or future aircraft purchases 20+ years from now. Business models change. CEO change. Businesses and countries change. Any talk about an airline 20+ years from now is pure speculation.
yuup. Who knows what the future holds for any of them. I would say (larger) bases and retirements are the most solid things to base a decision off of but even those change (CVG would have been a “safe” base at DAL 20 years ago.

Gone Flying 05-09-2021 05:55 PM
Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3232802)
which is awesome for those prescient enough to get hired by delta in 2016. However many thousand hired since then will offer a different landscape to DL newhires today
only about 3,500 pilots between jr 757/767 captain and a new hire, or about 7 years worth of retirements.

ElCaribe 05-09-2021 11:03 PM
Originally Posted by Me Air Da (Post 3232752)
That’s funny you claim that. The last bid at Dal awarded a 5 year pilot 75/76 CA. So unless the 767 has decided it no longer chooses to identify as a widebody, (which we should respect how it feels). Then I would say the information that you received from whatever flight attendant or van driver is irrelevant and untrue.
Was a 5 year pilot hired now?

Gone Flying 05-10-2021 09:39 AM
Originally Posted by ElCaribe (Post 3232903)
Was a 5 year pilot hired now?
I mentioned this in my post above, but someone hired today will have the same seniority# as that jr 75/76 CA (~9,100 at time of award) In about 6-7 years, if we hire only for attrition (highly likely we will hire more) someone hired today would have that same seniority in about the same amount of time, whether or not 75/76 stays that junior is another story…

opt0712 05-14-2021 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3233014)
I mentioned this in my post above, but someone hired today will have the same seniority# as that jr 75/76 CA (~9,100 at time of award) In about 6-7 years, if we hire only for attrition (highly likely we will hire more) someone hired today would have that same seniority in about the same amount of time, whether or not 75/76 stays that junior is another story…
And it depends on how many more WB positions will be flown by all those Joint Ventures. Something to also consider in the OPs choice.

Halon1211 05-14-2021 08:58 PM
Originally Posted by opt0712 (Post 3235117)
And it depends on how many more WB positions will be flown by all those Joint Ventures. Something to also consider in the OPs choice.
you can be a wide body pilot pretty quick at Emirates or Atlas...or even SkyLeaseCargo

Halon1211 05-14-2021 09:09 PM
Originally Posted by Me Air Da (Post 3231039)
Welp that settles it. Time to trade in my legacy job for Spirit. I never wanted that profit sharing or to be a widebody captain anyways.
Tell me, is the profit sharing check going to be bigger for this year compared to last year? I really want to know. I bet there are a lot of zero’s in it.


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