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NoDeskJob 07-13-2021 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Cougs (Post 3263103)
Now that Delta and United are both hiring again - and hiring like gangbusters for the foreseeable future, I am interested in the crowd’s opinion of the two airlines. Delta had been my #1, but United seems to be on the upswing. I’m most interested in the company’s financial stability and work rules.

financial stability can come/go with CEOs. Work rules are close, and change with contracts.
to me, the biggest factor would be where do you want to live. Live in domicile, if at all humanly possible. If you commute, you turn a great job into a good job.

Cougs 07-13-2021 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by NoDeskJob (Post 3263117)
financial stability can come/go with CEOs. Work rules are close, and change with contracts.
to me, the biggest factor would be where do you want to live. Live in domicile, if at all humanly possible. If you commute, you turn a great job into a good job.

SLC is a little higher than Denver on my list, but it’s not a deal-breaker. I have no plan on commuting. It’s kind of a moot point right now… I’ve got a United class date and Delta hasn’t called. I’m just wondering what I would/should do when they call. It’s hard to argue with being on the front of a hiring wave. I’ll probably choose to sit a lot of reserve, so the reserve rules matter quite a bit to me. It’s about QOL and not the money.

Gone Flying 07-13-2021 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Cougs (Post 3263103)
Now that Delta and United are both hiring again - and hiring like gangbusters for the foreseeable future, I am interested in the crowd’s opinion of the two airlines. Delta had been my #1, but United seems to be on the upswing. I’m most interested in the company’s financial stability and work rules.

id say probably UAL right now. UAL seems to have better work rules in a lot of ways. (Like deadheading, Crew meals, layover hotels ect.) they do significantly more INTL already and seemed poised to expand mainline flying domestically, and they have hired fewer pilots in the past 10-15 years which means more upward movement as senior pilots retire. IDK how UA builds their trips but DLs NB trips now look pretty rough, especially in NYC. While this may come and go, we don’t have much to protect us from some pretty bad trips. No clue how it is there.

bases aside, the only areas I can think of that DL beats UA in contract terms is profit sharing formula ( I think), WB reserve, and premium pay (always 200% at DAL)

contracts come and go and things always change, but that’s where i see things today.

I’d say both are probably ok on financials.

EDIT: looks like you already have a class date at U. I’d go to Denver and not look back.

cheers

NoDeskJob 07-14-2021 05:05 PM

I think DEN is pretty senior at United. SLC isn’t that senior for us. Something else to keep in mind if DL calls soon

hamsandwich 07-15-2021 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by NoDeskJob (Post 3263580)
I think DEN is pretty senior at United. SLC isn’t that senior for us. Something else to keep in mind if DL calls soon

DEN is trending more junior. About a dozen new hires got it back in May and Pre covid it took about 6 months to hold it on the 737.

Halon1211 07-15-2021 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Cougs (Post 3263103)
, but United seems to be on the upswing. I’m most interested in the company’s financial stability and work rules.

even more importantly than work rules and their financial stability is United’s commitment to diversity and inclusion. As a person who just finished trans-ethnicity surgery it make me proud to want to some day fly as an airperson on their planes.

Profane Kahuna 07-16-2021 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by hamsandwich (Post 3264132)
DEN is trending more junior. About a dozen new hires got it back in May and Pre covid it took about 6 months to hold it on the 737.

How long to upgrade in Denver at United?

Broncofan 07-16-2021 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3264217)
How long to upgrade in Denver at United?

7-8 years currently, however we will see what happens on this next vacancy bid in a few days.

John Carr 07-16-2021 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3264136)
even more importantly than work rules and their financial stability is United’s commitment to diversity and inclusion. As a person who just finished trans-ethnicity surgery it make me proud to want to some day fly as an airperson on their planes.

If only that procedure existed when the movie “Soul Man” came out it could have drastically changed the plot.

TrojanCMH 07-17-2021 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3264136)
even more importantly than work rules and their financial stability is United’s commitment to diversity and inclusion. As a person who just finished trans-ethnicity surgery it make me proud to want to some day fly as an airperson on their planes.


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