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02-14-2019, 11:29 AM
#62
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Originally Posted by RhinoBallAuto
...taxiing for takeoff at Kennedy. Lame new FO can't work the radios, gets lost on frequency between tower and ground. I slow down only to find out he's really buggered it up good -- box won't cooperate and take a new frequency, so we're no $h!t lost comms on the taxiway. I pull over off the active taxiway to troubleshoot, and tell him to dial in lost comm in the beacon code....
Guess who didn't know the difference between 7500 and 7600?
https://amp.businessinsider.com/poli...ror-why-2018-6
Guess who didn't know the difference between 7500 and 7600?
https://amp.businessinsider.com/poli...ror-why-2018-6
02-14-2019, 12:45 PM
#63
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Originally Posted by RhinoBallAuto
...taxiing for takeoff at Kennedy. Lame new FO can't work the radios, gets lost on frequency between tower and ground. I slow down only to find out he's really buggered it up good -- box won't cooperate and take a new frequency, so we're no $h!t lost comms on the taxiway. I pull over off the active taxiway to troubleshoot, and tell him to dial in lost comm in the beacon code....
Guess who didn't know the difference between 7500 and 7600?
https://amp.businessinsider.com/poli...ror-why-2018-6
Guess who didn't know the difference between 7500 and 7600?
https://amp.businessinsider.com/poli...ror-why-2018-6
02-15-2019, 08:42 AM
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Unless it was YOU who accidentally put in 7500 instead of 7600, then it’s pretty clear from your comments that you threw your “lame new FO” under the bus.
Did you mean to say YOU accidentally put in the wrong code? Is THAT the context that was missed?
Did you mean to say YOU accidentally put in the wrong code? Is THAT the context that was missed?
02-15-2019, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Unless it was YOU who accidentally put in 7500 instead of 7600, then it’s pretty clear from your comments that you threw your “lame new FO” under the bus.
Did you mean to say YOU accidentally put in the wrong code? Is THAT the context that was missed?
Did you mean to say YOU accidentally put in the wrong code? Is THAT the context that was missed?
7575, 7555, 5555, 0911, something like that. Could phase it in over 5 years.
02-15-2019, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Unless it was YOU who accidentally put in 7500 instead of 7600, then it’s pretty clear from your comments that you threw your “lame new FO” under the bus.
Did you mean to say YOU accidentally put in the wrong code? Is THAT the context that was missed?
Did you mean to say YOU accidentally put in the wrong code? Is THAT the context that was missed?
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02-16-2019, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Due the current operational ramifications (ie formation flight with fighters), IMO They should change the hijack code to something unambiguous that can't be confused with 7700 or 7600.
7575, 7555, 5555, 0911, something like that. Could phase it in over 5 years.
7575, 7555, 5555, 0911, something like that. Could phase it in over 5 years.
I think you're right that 7500 and 7600 are too easily confused. Hijack ought to be something else entirely. 7777 maybe. 7700 is a legacy of the 50s and 60s when ATC only had primary radar and the 77 (binary: 111 111) "double blossom" would make an emergency aircraft stand out on the scope. You'd think we could do better.
02-16-2019, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dude
Squawking 0911 would be a really neat trick. Try it and see if you agree.
I think you're right that 7500 and 7600 are too easily confused. Hijack ought to be something else entirely. 7777 maybe. 7700 is a legacy of the 50s and 60s when ATC only had primary radar and the 77 (binary: 111 111) "double blossom" would make an emergency aircraft stand out on the scope. You'd think we could do better.
I think you're right that 7500 and 7600 are too easily confused. Hijack ought to be something else entirely. 7777 maybe. 7700 is a legacy of the 50s and 60s when ATC only had primary radar and the 77 (binary: 111 111) "double blossom" would make an emergency aircraft stand out on the scope. You'd think we could do better.
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