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06-19-2019, 09:30 AM
#82
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Where's the 797?
I thought they were going to formally announce it in Paris? Maybe they saved it for the end of the show?
I thought they were going to formally announce it in Paris? Maybe they saved it for the end of the show?
06-19-2019, 12:28 PM
#83
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Nailed it on page 1.
Indigo orders 50 airframes. Franke is going to connect his network for a global ULCC.
Boeing is in a bad spot for narrow bodies. Sad to see actually.
Two problems: Bean counters not willing to take a risk on a new design, hence the continued rebirth of the 737.
And SWA. With over 700 airframes don’t think they didn’t play a role in Boeing deciding to stop production of the 737 or continue to reintroduce it.
Indigo orders 50 airframes. Franke is going to connect his network for a global ULCC.
Boeing is in a bad spot for narrow bodies. Sad to see actually.
Two problems: Bean counters not willing to take a risk on a new design, hence the continued rebirth of the 737.
And SWA. With over 700 airframes don’t think they didn’t play a role in Boeing deciding to stop production of the 737 or continue to reintroduce it.
06-20-2019, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
DL has stated they want a twin aisle aircraft for the 767ER replacement. With the very poor A330-900 sales and non existent A330-800 sales I suspect they may get a bargain on those. The XLR lacks cargo and galley space for a Delta long haul replacement.
There is an automatic "your on guard" transmission when people talk on 121.5
06-20-2019, 10:45 AM
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Flown both. The 757 is a hot rod. The 321 is very nice as well, just more like a good Toyota Camry. Fuel efficient, but not special.
The 321 cannot do hot and high and have any range. No Way!!
The 321 also is a slog when it is heavy and you want to get above some bumps.... the wing just won't let it get up until you are nearly empty and ready to land anyway. Will really suck going across the North Atlantic. And if there is any headwind coming back - plan on a stop.
The 321 cannot do hot and high and have any range. No Way!!
The 321 also is a slog when it is heavy and you want to get above some bumps.... the wing just won't let it get up until you are nearly empty and ready to land anyway. Will really suck going across the North Atlantic. And if there is any headwind coming back - plan on a stop.
06-20-2019, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by butthert
Yeah but I did hear that Airbus has a special radio package for DL.
There is an automatic "your on guard" transmission when people talk on 121.5
There is an automatic "your on guard" transmission when people talk on 121.5
06-20-2019, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FastDEW
Flown both. The 757 is a hot rod. The 321 is very nice as well, just more like a good Toyota Camry. Fuel efficient, but not special.
The 321 cannot do hot and high and have any range. No Way!!
The 321 also is a slog when it is heavy and you want to get above some bumps.... the wing just won't let it get up until you are nearly empty and ready to land anyway. Will really suck going across the North Atlantic. And if there is any headwind coming back - plan on a stop.
The 321 cannot do hot and high and have any range. No Way!!
The 321 also is a slog when it is heavy and you want to get above some bumps.... the wing just won't let it get up until you are nearly empty and ready to land anyway. Will really suck going across the North Atlantic. And if there is any headwind coming back - plan on a stop.
What’s incredible is the “built-in” forward looking design in the A320 family from conception if you will and the relative ease of design changes, in comparison to the 737 family and its various iterations. That said, silly as it may be, a “757 MAX” with would’ve been a pilots dream if maybe a day late & a dollar short as was the 747-8i.
06-21-2019, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedbird2263
The planned 4700nm range will be about 700nm more than a 757 with winglets. That should mitigate any westbound issues in all but the strongest of peak winds. I agree that a new wing would make it an even more formidable all round replacement. I suspect that may be Airbus’ final trump card a la “A321++” in response to the proposed Boeing NMA.
What’s incredible is the “built-in” forward looking design in the A320 family from conception if you will and the relative ease of design changes, in comparison to the 737 family and its various iterations. That said, silly as it may be, a “757 MAX” with would’ve been a pilots dream if maybe a day late & a dollar short as was the 747-8i.
What’s incredible is the “built-in” forward looking design in the A320 family from conception if you will and the relative ease of design changes, in comparison to the 737 family and its various iterations. That said, silly as it may be, a “757 MAX” with would’ve been a pilots dream if maybe a day late & a dollar short as was the 747-8i.
The 757 can and does have a tough time in the winter with the high track winds. Delta as a example switched to a 767 on RDU to CDG flights even though the distance is well under 4200 miles. Winds combined with limited track altitude choices would force a diversion. The other issue when you start getting into flights over 8 hours is you need a lot of heavy galley space. A single isle aircraft is also a pain in the butt for lav access during services for passengers.
