|
Originally Posted by jsled
(Post 165253)
OK. But my class in 1997 consisted of 25 WASP dudes. Also, if you look at the UAL hiring statistics AFTER 1992 you will find less than 20% annually were women and minority. Put another way, 80% of pilots hired after 1992 were NOT minority.
|
Originally Posted by Futureman
(Post 165256)
That's probably more than there should have been.
Perhaps. But once bitten, twice shy. Why get sued?(again). |
Originally Posted by Rottweiler
(Post 164464)
Good luck and god bless them.
However, one thing that will never change is the jetblue's, Virgin America's, Skybuses', Max Jets....... They major airline pilot's can walk all they want, but they will never change the fact that LCC's are here to stay. There was a day when Kiwi, West pac, Winn Air, Vanguard and all the rest would start up and die within a couple years. But there are thousands regional airline captains wanting to make the jump to "big iron" and willing to do it for half the pay and benefits of a major airlines. Combine that with the fact that ther are managements trying to put LCC's together, an FAA all too willing to give away a 121 certificate and a capital market hoping that the next LCC will give a return like B6, and you are always going to be fighting the LCC's. The big 3 will get their pay back. Then the big 3 will go BK again. it will be a never ending cycle. You're right that the majors will be continually fighting the upstarts/LCC's etc.. As long as there is a void in the market place, be it capacity, quality or creativity, there will be someone there to fill it. As far as pilot compensation, if the market demands it, the pay will rise at the newer carriers over time. I realize that this is little consolation to someone in their last 5 or 10 years who has had their pay and pension savaged by incompetent fools (union and management). You may be right if the unions overreach before the carriers are ready to pay the big bucks, then it will start the cycle all over again. If so, then management will only have themselves to blame as the cycle was started by their unending greed, first in overreaching after 9/11 (because they could) and then by their obscene bonuses and payouts that we are seeing now. |
UAL went on a chick spree back in the late 80's thru mid 90's.. it then went back to 1 in 10 which is more of an industry standard from what I've been told.
|
Originally Posted by CE750
(Post 165756)
UAL went on a chick spree back in the late 80's thru mid 90's.. it then went back to 1 in 10 which is more of an industry standard from what I've been told.
|
What a CROCK OF .......
"Taking it back???!!! "
Give me a break. The same boneheads in the union, GAVE IT UP TO START WITH!!!!! |
Originally Posted by H= 9 * (SQRT P)
(Post 165223)
http://www.pbase.com/glipper/image/78604077
http://www.pbase.com/glipper/image/78604141 http://www.pbase.com/glipper/image/78604089 http://www.pbase.com/glipper/image/78604066 http://www.pbase.com/glipper/image/78604111 UAL hired over 400% more woman on a percentage basis than what the F.A.A. issued when accounting for woman private and commerical certificates. Average flight time for woman being hired at UAL in the late nineties and early two thousands was 1600 hours total time. Take it for what it is worth. fbh |
Originally Posted by H= 9 * (SQRT P)
(Post 165859)
Lets be clear on this. United continued this practice of hiring abnormally high numbers of woman and minorities right up until they quit hiring in 2001. To be fair, interns and kids with mom or dad working there also got special treatment. That left the white male pilot on his own. The white male pilot had to have many thousands of hours more flying time and PIC before he could even think about an interview. That is a fact and it is indisputable if you look only at the facts.
.. I was just saying that they were even worse for a while in the late 80's thru early 90's when they were picking up women with literally a commercial multi-engine in a market where there were ATP's with Type Ratings looking for work. They've since "calmed" down is all. |
Originally Posted by H= 9 * (SQRT P)
(Post 165859)
Lets be clear on this. United continued this practice of hiring abnormally high numbers of woman and minorities right up until they quit hiring in 2001. To be fair, interns and kids with mom or dad working there also got special treatment. That left the white male pilot on his own. The white male pilot had to have many thousands of hours more flying time and PIC before he could even think about an interview. That is a fact and it is undisputable if you look only at the facts.
|
JSLED-Any Good News @ Charm School
Hey- I am United as well but have been gone for the last 4 years. Military for 2 and built houses for 2- don't believe skyhigh- residential construction is definitely "working for a living", plus a ton of risks. My wife encouraged me to continue but my response was what is the big deal about being home every night if I walk in the door ****ed after managing malcontents all day. And don't forget working at least 6 days a week-if you are conscientous.
Since popular opinion is negative on UAL- do you have any recent good news? Plus, what is being said on Age 65 relative to vacancies/upgrades. Not baiting, interested in company specific implications. BTW, should be back on the might guppy this summer. Thanks |
| All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:49 PM. |
Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands