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Old 05-16-2007, 11:57 AM
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OK So we have:

--The JetBlue Pilot group documented twice trying to get the FAA to lift the 8/24 duty time

--Age 65 coming and Age 60 retirements going

--Open Skies a done deal

In your opinion what will be the next industry standard under attack either by a rouge pilot group, airline mangement, FAA or Congress?
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OK So we have:

--The JetBlue Pilot group documented twice trying to get the FAA to lift the 8/24 duty time

--Age 65 coming and Age 60 retirements going

--Open Skies a done deal

In your opinion what will be the next industry standard under attack either by a rouge pilot group, airline mangement, FAA or Congress?
Is it the pilot group or JB that wants the 8/24 issue pushed through? Just a questions.
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Originally Posted by ProfessorJoeVee View Post
OK So we have:

--The JetBlue Pilot group documented twice trying to get the FAA to lift the 8/24 duty time

--Age 65 coming and Age 60 retirements going

--Open Skies a done deal

In your opinion what will be the next industry standard under attack either by a rouge pilot group, airline mangement, FAA or Congress?
Outsourcing of pilots
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:04 PM
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Is it the pilot group or JB that wants the 8/24 issue pushed through? Just a questions.
In a word: Yes

They want to be able to fly from the East Coast to the West Coast and then return without having to take a crew rest.

In their desire they have one time petitioned the FAA and one time participated in an illegal unsanctioned "fact finding" in which they subjected unknowing passengers to pilots who were actively breaking the 8/24 duty limit.
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206 View Post
Outsourcing of pilots
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Concur.
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:48 PM
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Thumbs down Some CEO will think of this....

Requiring pilots to do other work when not flying, as is done in corporate aviation? Probably would be seen first at some non-union carrier and then spread. Didn't People Express have pilots work the ticket counter, etc?
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Requiring pilots to do other work when not flying, as is done in corporate aviation? Probably would be seen first at some non-union carrier and then spread. Didn't People Express have pilots work the ticket counter, etc?
JetBlue "pilots" clean aircraft cabins.
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How about losing or charging a significant amount for jumpseats?
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Professor, why the burning hate for JB? It's not healthy to be so angry...
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Professor, why the burning hate for JB? It's not healthy to be so angry...

?? We are discussing "the industry" top to bottom.

If JetBlue bumps one end or the other why are you upset if it is mentioned?
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