Chicago and a few other cities had martial law in 1968, wasn't all that bad. "Hey G.I., you got gum?"
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Originally Posted by navigatro
(Post 3000126)
you can drive.
if you think the Federal Gov't cant do this, you have your head in the sand. They could declare martial law, then all bets are off. States could and would be the more appropriate agency to implement martial law, and their national guards are the people who know how to do that (vice federal forces). It would only be necessary if there was actual civil unrest (riots, looting). It would obviously only be necessary in limited locations... most of the nation will stay civil if food and water is available, and COVID has little or no impact on ground transportation or most food production. If things get tight, the guard would be called out to help and their very presence would serve to discourage the kind of behavior which might lead to martial law. |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3000029)
Because the constitution totally says we have the rights to use the national airspace system.
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The Constitution does not guarantee you the right to fly on an airliner.
Did we keep flying after 9/11 or did the Gov't shutdown air travel? |
Originally Posted by butthert
(Post 3000532)
[MOD EDIT]
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Originally Posted by BobZ
(Post 3000535)
From the beginning the executive has engaged in unconstitutional actions. From suspending habeus corpus to locking up thousands of americans based on their race.
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3000464)
The Constitution does not guarantee you the right to fly on an airliner.
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We are quickly moving past the point where shutting down the airspace system can do anything to quarantine the spread. It’s in all 48 contiguous states. Unless they want to shut down every border of every state, pinch the flow of goods and food and other essentials and effectively stop all commerce. Shelves go bare and the whole machine grinds to a halt. National guard aren’t going to stay on weeks and months long martial law deployment while their families are home alone facing the same nightmare. None of that works. The military has a role to respond with battlefield type triage, build temporary hospitals, and provide emergency services support, and make sure supplies and care get to the most vulnerable and helpless.
The idea that we are a nation of people who can be forcibly locked down at gunpoint for any length of time is the most absurd notion. This isn’t second amendment “come and take it” posturing, it’s the very fabric of who we are. We do what we can to limit those who get sick and those who die, but getting frightened into unraveling everything about what our country is built on is more tragic than disheartening than the effects of this virus. |
Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
(Post 3000759)
But it doesn't say that the federal government can take that right away.
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
(Post 3000760)
We are quickly moving past the point where shutting down the airspace system can do anything to quarantine the spread. It’s in all 48 contiguous states. Unless they want to shut down every border of every state, pinch the flow of goods and food and other essentials and effectively stop all commerce. Shelves go bare and the whole machine grinds to a halt. National guard aren’t going to stay on weeks and months long martial law deployment while their families are home alone facing the same nightmare. None of that works. The military has a role to respond with battlefield type triage, build temporary hospitals, and provide emergency services support, and make sure supplies and care get to the most vulnerable and helpless.
The idea that we are a nation of people who can be forcibly locked down at gunpoint for any length of time is the most absurd notion. This isn’t second amendment “come and take it” posturing, it’s the very fabric of who we are. We do what we can to limit those who get sick and those who die, but getting frightened into unraveling everything about what our country is built on is more tragic than disheartening than the effects of this virus. |
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