hockeypilot44

Delta, Allegiant, and United have made it pretty clear they are both going to furlough. From what I can tell, they are are the only major airlines that are planning for it. It seems Delta and United plan on shrinking by at least 30 percent. These 2 airlines have a lot of retirements coming up. What am I missing? How is everyone else plan on staying the same size or expanding while these two airlines crumble? Are they shrinking to merge with each other or someone else? It doesn't make sense to me how optimistic everyone else is.

RustyChain

I just got back from the future, you're never gonna believe it...

Han Solo

I failed future telling in college.

80emb145

Allegiant? I just spoke to a friend and everyone is flying while they’re looking to buy planes. They def tried to scare the pilot group, but they called his bluff. I guess I gotta call him again.

Riverside

You're missing the 20 other threads about this topic.

KIGECA97531

At Allegiant management threatened massive furloughs in an attempt to gut our contract. The union said their ask would have removed something like 160 pages from the CBA. The union told them to pound sand, then they upped the threats and took it directly to the pilots. The pilot group laughed at them and also told them to pound sand. They were supposed to put out their furlough projection on Friday but nothing came. Many articles have been published showing how great Allegiant is doing and our CEO bragged to the investors about how this is a great opportunity. It appears Allegiant was just being Allegiant and taking another opportunity to undermine employee compensation. I would be surprised if they actually furlough anyone come October. I wouldn't be surprised if they keep making threats and even send out some notices then take it back at the last minute.

GPullR

Everybody is going to furlough. Very simple math. 40% pax expected by oct 1st. You either shrink your payroll or you slow roll it to bankruptcy. Not much choice. Everybody basically in same boat. If the forecast is right of 70% by next summer, how can companies continue with 100% aircraft and employees, they can't. I believe most carriers are taking the wait and see until their minimum furlough announcement dates comes about to not set off panic.

AA is planning on shrinking as well.

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Al Czervik

AA has already started to shrink. 800 gone already since covid.

sanicom3205

Do you know what the significance of turning 65 years old is for an airline pilot

PotatoChip

You think 25%+ will turn 65 by next year??