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Old 07-12-2020 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Did they report just the facts such as case numbers, hospitalizations, and deaths or was it fear based opinion?

The media has a duty to report the facts not sweep it under the rug.

The fear based commentary is unacceptable though. They are ruining more lives than Covid is killing with the opinion coverage.
The mainstream media exists for one reason - to generate ad revenue and make money. Eyeballs on the screen. Whatever it takes.
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Old 07-13-2020 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FetaCheese
Airlines need to be regulated again. End of story. Ever since de regulation it's been a never ending cycle of doom, bust, and Airlines going under. In all the years prior to de-regulation going back to the 20s, the airline industry was relatively stable and the service was much better.

This experiment has failed.
The experiment has been incredibly successful. Air travel went from a luxury that only the wealthy/professional class could afford to 50% of Americans taking a flight in the past year. It just came at the cost of perpetual boom/bust cycles for aviation labor.
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Old 07-13-2020 | 07:56 AM
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The experiment has been incredibly successful. Air travel went from a luxury that only the wealthy/professional class could afford to 50% of Americans taking a flight in the past year. It just came at the cost of perpetual boom/bust cycles for aviation labor.
Regulation didnt alter the reality this business has always been marginally profitable and unstable
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Old 07-13-2020 | 09:34 AM
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Nearly 50 million Americans out of work, some people can’t afford to travel.
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Old 07-13-2020 | 11:52 AM
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Regulation would still allow prices to fluctuate and dip low enough to allow the masses to travel. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. All the de-regulation act did was swing the pendulum to the complete opposite side, and it's been a dumpster fire since then.

Every 5 to 10 years it's thousands of unemployed on the street, entire airlines going under, massive bail outs, etc...

Time to reel it all back in.
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Old 07-13-2020 | 12:10 PM
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Prior to deregulation airline executives didn’t need to be good at what they do to make a profit. They don’t now, but employees pay the penalty for their incompetence.

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Old 07-17-2020 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FetaCheese
Regulation would still allow prices to fluctuate and dip low enough to allow the masses to travel. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. All the de-regulation act did was swing the pendulum to the complete opposite side, and it's been a dumpster fire since then.

Every 5 to 10 years it's thousands of unemployed on the street, entire airlines going under, massive bail outs, etc...

Time to reel it all back in.
This is incorrect. In 1979, the average ticket price in 2016 dollars was $616, vs $314 in 2016.

Roughly 60% of the population at the time had flown and that went up to over 80% by 2016.

The CAB determined routes and waste was rampant.

I would argue that before Covid, the airlines in the USA were running the most efficient and affordable air travel in our history. Don’t forget to add safety to that as well.
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Old 07-17-2020 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
Prior to deregulation airline executives didn’t need to be good at what they do to make a profit. They don’t now, but employees pay the penalty for their incompetence.
BINGO ... this is true in most other industrys as well.
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Old 07-17-2020 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
This is incorrect. In 1979, the average ticket price in 2016 dollars was $616, vs $314 in 2016.

Roughly 60% of the population at the time had flown and that went up to over 80% by 2016.

The CAB determined routes and waste was rampant.

I would argue that before Covid, the airlines in the USA were running the most efficient and affordable air travel in our history. Don’t forget to add safety to that as well.
True statements... No business can really plan for something like a covid event ... So many unknown variables and little cash coming in. For employees it's about keeping your job or not ... For the company this is about survival.

Fingers crossed.
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Old 07-19-2020 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FetaCheese
Airlines need to be regulated again. End of story. Ever since de regulation it's been a never ending cycle of doom, bust, and Airlines going under. In all the years prior to de-regulation going back to the 20s, the airline industry was relatively stable and the service was much better.

This experiment has failed.
When the airlines were regulated the CAB determine what companies operated and where they flew. If deregulation never happened Jet Blue would never exist, Southwest would still only be in Texas, and there would be no Regionals. While there would still be American, Delta and United they would be about 1/4 of their pre-Covid size. You can argue that Continental, Eastern, PanAm, Northwest and TWA would still be around but the total Major Airline flying would be about 1/2 of what the Majors flew pre-Covid. Under the CBA they was no incentive to add routes and definitely there was no competition. Counting all the flying that the current Majors and Regionals do we would be lucky to see 10% if deregulation never happened. That means 90% of us would never have had jobs to start with!
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