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Old 10-18-2005, 10:59 AM   #1  
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Southwest could leave Love
12:54 PM CDT on Tuesday, October 18, 2005

By ERIC TORBENSON / The Dallas Morning News

Southwest Airlines Co. would consider moving its headquarters if it can't expand flying from Dallas Love Field, the carrier's president said Tuesday.

Southwest Airlines CEO, Gary Kelly, left, and founder Herb Kelleher talk to media following a June news conference about the Wright amendment.
If the carrier's efforts to repeal the Wright amendment restrictions failed, "there could be a time, if we continue to have a modicum of success, that it would be a bit odd for us to have our headquarters at one of the smallest posts in our system," said Southwest president Colleen Barrett.

Last November, the Dallas-based discounter launched a campaign to repeal Wright, which restricts most commercial service at Love Field to Texas and nearby states. Bills are pending in Congress to repeal the law, and hearings may be held as soon as next month. Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport and American Airlines Inc. oppose any changes to the rules.

Ms. Barrett's comments, at a news conference at Southwest's headquarters at Love Field, were similar to remarks from chairman Herb Kelleher in a published report Sunday. "Inevitably, as we grow bigger across the rest of the country, and Dallas remains the same size, we might have to begin casting about for a place that's more efficient to operate," Mr. Kelleher told The New York Times.

Southwest has hinted that Dallas is a less-than-ideal city for its administrative offices because it's inconvenient to move its people there for meetings. Southwest chief executive Gary Kelly has previously said that if the carrier were picking a new headquarters from scratch, Dallas wouldn't make the first cut because of the Wright restrictions.
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Southwest has hinted that Dallas is a less-than-ideal city for its administrative offices because it's inconvenient to move its people there for meetings. Southwest chief executive Gary Kelly has previously said that if the carrier were picking a new headquarters from scratch, Dallas wouldn't make the first cut because of the Wright restrictions.
That's a fact! To travel to Dallas on SWA from Sacramento I have to do at least 3 legs: two to get to a Wright Amendment Gateway (ABQ or ELP usually) then the last hop on into DAL under a new ticket and flight number to comply with the WA restrictions.

I could fly to DFW nonstop on AA but they charge $1198* to do so from SMF (r/t). Amazingly, to fly on the same airplanes but book the trip to AUS instead of getting off at DFW is only $589*! I forgot, how is it that the Wright Amendment encourages people to travel to North Texas?


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Old 10-21-2005, 09:47 PM   #3  
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Gary Kelly, SWA's CEO, spoke out today clarifying statements made earlier this week by other SWA executives indicating SWA may seek a new location for its headquarters. While agreeing that Dallas would not make the first cut if the company were seeking a place to start doing business today, it currently has no plans to move.

Still, he didn't say that they wouldn't start considering the idea and have contingencies ready in case the Wright Amendment repeal efforts prove to be ineffective.
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I hear that Fort Worth is looking for another airline for their airport
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I hear that Fort Worth is looking for another airline for their airport
You're right! There is a lot of open space at Alliance Airport!
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Default No need for SWA to leave Love

I have the perfect answer for SWA.

First off STAY PUT!!!

Second ....take a trip out to the mojave desert and pick up a few hundred

Regional Jets (RJ). They are ripe for the pickins and real cheap now!.

Paint those babies up SWA style and add some winglets.

Have UNLIMITED access to the USA.

NO MORE WRIGHT AMENDMENT PROBLEMS!

New York, Chicago, Atlanta, Nashville, THE SKY IS THE LIMIT.

You could fly ANYWHERE with those Regional jets.

Staff them with new-bee pilots that will work real cheap,

with the chance of moving up to the mainline

I think that this is the answer to the SWA W.R problem.

No more fighting city hall. no more bickering with DFW or AA.

I say go for it SWA!
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I have the perfect answer for SWA.

First off STAY PUT!!!

Second ....take a trip out to the mojave desert and pick up a few hundred

Regional Jets (RJ). They are ripe for the pickins and real cheap now!.

Paint those babies up SWA style and add some winglets.

Have UNLIMITED access to the USA.

NO MORE WRIGHT AMENDMENT PROBLEMS!

New York, Chicago, Atlanta, Nashville, THE SKY IS THE LIMIT.

You could fly ANYWHERE with those Regional jets.

Staff them with new-bee pilots that will work real cheap,

with the chance of moving up to the mainline

I think that this is the answer to the SWA W.R problem.

No more fighting city hall. no more bickering with DFW or AA.

I say go for it SWA!

Great Job describing the American Airline business model. SWA on the other hand is in the business of making money (shareholder return on investment). You just keep up the good work advising Arpey. I'll stick with Gary Kelly calling the shots. You're the reason that the rest of us have to take drug and alcohol tests...you must be on some serious drugs.
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I have the perfect answer for SWA.

First off STAY PUT!!!
That's the idea!

The rest of your ideas have already been tried.
CO (XJET) flew DAL ->CLE as well as IAH
ASA flew DAL->ATL

The competition from the DFW-based airlines overwhelmed them!

Say it ain't so, Mr. Fegan! Could it be that airlines actually do compete from different airports???
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Wink Man this is great!

Damn, what a country we live in!
I knew you SWA guys would be all over that.
It is just so much fun spewing out crap and everybody actually
latches on to it.

Ok how about this........AA and SWA MERGE.
We could call it Great American Southwest Airlines.
Heck with all the codeshare both teams have we could
pert -near own the world.

The best spin I have heard lately is how SWA is the red headed stepchild
that the Wright AMendment abuses horribly.

The true fact is that the Wright AD. is a LOVE FIELD issue.
It has to do with ANY AND ALL Airlines flying from DAL.

If American or ANY OTHER AIRLINE flew from DAL they would
have to abide by THE SAME RULES.

Good job on the wet hankey spin job.
I almost fell for it

Oh..... and one more thing
Been taking drug and Alcohol tests for over 2 decades now
never missed the cup once!

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I knew you SWA guys would be all over that. It is just so much fun spewing out crap and everybody actually latches on to it.
Glad we could make your day!
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that the Wright AMendment abuses horribly.
That would be "canyon blue" headed. The red is on the belly.
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The true fact is that the Wright AD. is a LOVE FIELD issue. It has to do with ANY AND ALL Airlines flying from DAL.

If American or ANY OTHER AIRLINE flew from DAL they would have to abide by THE SAME RULES.
Quite true. To my knowledge, no one who actually understands the law believes otherwise. The key, however, is to take the time to read it. Too many folks on both sides of the issue like to shoot from the (_insert body part of your choice_) armed only with the info fed to them from carefully crafted public relations efforts.

The interesting part of the argument to me, however, is the notion that Dallas didn't live up to their part of the 1968 Regional Airport Concurrent Bond Ordinance agreement by shutting down all commercial operations at Love Field. In fact (and you can look it up), the 1968 Ordinance stated that the cities should "take such steps as may be necessary, appropriate and legally permissible . . ." to shut down service. (It's that "legally permissible" phrase that so often is conveniently overlooked.)

After numerous court battles going all the way to the US Supreme Court, it was established that commercial operations at Love Field could not legally be restricted.

When the airline industry was deregulated by the Airline Deregulation Act of 1978, SWA desired to start interstate routes to New Orleans from Dallas. They applied to the Civil Aeronautics Board for approval to begin service on this route. The CAB approved the route stating that under the provisions of the Deregulation Act it did not have the authority to deny it.

Fearing a new threat to DFW from the precedece established by the CAB's ruling, DFW and its protectors ran to congress with their worries. Possessing a great deal of influence within congress as the Speaker of the House, Fort Worth's representative, Jim Wright, authored the amendment that bear. Thus, the Airline Deregulation Act of 1978 was sidestepped by the act of changing the laws to allow regulation in this market. (Interestingly, the bill his amendment was attached to was titled "International Air Transportation Competition Act" designed to promote airline competition!)

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Oh..... and one more thing Been taking drug and Alcohol tests for over 2 decades now never missed the cup once!
"Please share your secret," he asked as he dried his hands on his pants.
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