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Old 07-24-2021, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast View Post
Why would you divert to HDN?
how come no one is talking about this part of it? HDN?????
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Old 07-24-2021, 02:14 PM
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how come no one is talking about this part of it? HDN?????
I'm not an airline guy, but wouldn't dispatch have to sign off on where they divert to, barring a time critical emergency? COS is an airline airport, and I think CYS is too? GJT isn't that much further than HDN too.
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Old 07-24-2021, 02:17 PM
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I slept on a Brasilia one time. It sucked. But now I don't complain much about hotels
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Old 07-24-2021, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HwkrPlt View Post
I'm not an airline guy, but wouldn't dispatch have to sign off on where they divert to, barring a time critical emergency? COS is an airline airport, and I think CYS is too? GJT isn't that much further than HDN too.
No. dispatch is a tool to be used from the Captain’s tool kit, but ultimately, the decision is his.
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Old 07-24-2021, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 View Post
No. dispatch is a tool to be used from the Captain’s tool kit, but ultimately, the decision is his.
My airline wouid require a dispatch amendment for the non release alternate, short of declaring an emergency by the flight crew.
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Old 07-24-2021, 06:32 PM
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I slept on a Brasilia one time. It sucked. But now I don't complain much about hotels
Haha, me too! Continuous duty, maintenance ferry type deal. Back in the 90’s
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Old 07-24-2021, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo View Post
My airline wouid require a dispatch amendment for the non release alternate, short of declaring an emergency by the flight crew.
Interesting. In the heat of battle, with fuel getting thin, and slow response times which occasionally happen with communicating with dispatch, handcuffing the Captain to that requirement seems counterproductive. I always try to involve them, but there are times when a one line message saying “ diverting to xyz due to efc of xxxx and xx minutes of fuel onboard. Not necessarily an emergency YET, but if we burn holes in the sky long enough while talking about it with dispatch, it will be soon!
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Old 07-24-2021, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 View Post
Interesting. In the heat of battle, with fuel getting thin, and slow response times which occasionally happen with communicating with dispatch, handcuffing the Captain to that requirement seems counterproductive. I always try to involve them, but there are times when a one line message saying “ diverting to xyz due to efc of xxxx and xx minutes of fuel onboard. Not necessarily an emergency YET, but if we burn holes in the sky long enough while talking about it with dispatch, it will be soon!
The discussion while holding should always include "whats the best overnight around here".
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Old 07-24-2021, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo View Post
My airline wouid require a dispatch amendment for the non release alternate, short of declaring an emergency by the flight crew.
I have over-ridden dispatches “recommendation” for a divert city before. PIC is the final authority as to the safe execution of the flight. I value their input, but sometimes a decision must be made.
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Old 07-24-2021, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyward View Post
I have over-ridden dispatches “recommendation” for a divert city before. PIC is the final authority as to the safe execution of the flight. I value their input, but sometimes a decision must be made.
Nobody is talking about that. Did not say dispatch decides where we land. I said per our FOM, we need an amendment to land at an off release airport for non emergency operations. Captain has the final say but you have a box to check beforehand when complying with our FOM, and I also believe 121.631, short of declaring an emergency.

Love the flex from the guys on here, but it isnt necessary. Ive had zero issues getting an amendment when needed, it isnt an ask, its a cooperative action with myself, the FO, and the dispatcher with everyone understanding that I have the final decision.

An amendment isnt permission, its the dispatcher verifying the weather and airport are suitable for the aircraft you are flying into that airport.
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