UnprotectdPilot

AA & APA claim to be in "super negotiations" to expedite a short-term contract.
Delta appears to be back at the table with ALPA after 2 years of stalled negotiations (understandably, due to COVID).
United struck an LOA agreement for a 5% raise once they return to profitability; progress to a new contract negotiation unknown.
Southwest's SWAPA has been having some informational picketing going on; company claims to be 50% of what they are going to present for a new contract.
Alaska pilots are up to informational picketing.
The Frontier/Spirit merger announcement just hit the 'reset' button for negotiations as Spirit pilots were set to begin their early opener this year.
JetBlue ... ????????
Allegiant ... ??????????
Sun Country got a new contract recently.


Anyone have any educated guesses as to what we're going to see in the next year or two as far as new contracts? I suspect once one of the Big 3 finalize a new CBA, we're going to see others fall in line shortly thereafter.

flydiamond

Allegiant’s Union and Management signed a joint letter about a month ago committing to accelerated negotiations to reach a competitive contract asap. Last contract became Amenable in July 2021. They are meeting often, however there is nothing to show quite yet. Too soon.

attrition is a huge issue.

CBreezy

I would say it's unlikely Delta and ALPA pen a deal anytime in 22. My over/under is fall summer 23

flensr

After 2 years of "negotiations" SWA basically said they were going to completely ignore SWAPA's comprehensive contract proposal and has now wasted a couple of months proposing minor changes to the existing contract. Meanwhile during what should be a period of explosive growth, SWA is teetering on the brink of more operational meltdowns due to low manning and a number of other issues including an amazingly bitter poo flinging contest initiated by a handful of FAs and other employee workgroups against the pilot group. SWAPA's contract proposal directly addresses the root causes of some of these operational problems, but the company has signaled that they're happy with the current language and apparently really like how bitter and disillusioned our pilots are becoming due to the continual and totally preventable operational meltdown we're having.

My prediction is that SWA's negotiations drag on for at least 2 more years and in the process we'll give up at least 50% of the market share gains we *could* have if the company was all pulling in the same direction. During annual CQT one of the company senior leaders pretty much begged us to get our highly qualified friends to apply. Thing is, I quit recommending SWA to my friends about a year ago.

New CEO, maybe new direction, who knows. As it is though, it's not a healthy place for many of our pilots.

WHACKMASTER

We’re not going to see a new contract at SWA for at least another two years, but more like 3(+) at this pace.

The biggest factors that could change that are attrition and an inability to hire pilots.

unstabilized

United was in the process of passing closeout proposals recently, but have been hung up over the dollar amount the contract will cost.

As of today they stopped passing closeout proposals and returned to section 6 negotiations, with the management team not feeling too comfortable about making a pass until the company returns to profitability.

Quiet Storm

JetBlue’s union notified the company of their intentions to open up negations, under section 6, earlier this month .

fadec

Smart management. Inflation is real. Wage slaves have all taken a 30%+ pay cut. More to come. A recession looks likely. Damped expectations for growth make signing less attractive. They can sit this out while labor cost vanishes against CASM and RASM, maybe a decade. Then when a day of captain's wages pays for a fast food dinner and an airport hotel they'll be in a better position to negotiate.

ShyGuy

Replace SWA with AS and SWAPA with ALPA and you literally just described where AS is right now in terms of pilot negotiations. I always dismissed a SWA merger rumor but honestly I think it's a good match at this point.