Check 6

Question,

I used to work for AWA an my emp # was P1766....

Were would that put me on the intergration list??? FO? Capt? W/B or N/B?

Just a wonderin' on this beautiful summer morning...

A320fumes

Guess that was good for the industry, because if your windfall stands, you are both history. Hell, maybe even if the windfall is thrown out. You make it sound like DParker has a clue. In 2004, the great employees @ AmWest were experiencing their only facsimile of success since it's impressive 83-86 stint. And DP does what, buys an airline with a sicklier history than AmWest. High on this unfamiliar smell of success (2004) he gambled it all away. When everybody else saw this as bad for both airlines, but especially AmWest, he tried it again with Delta. D Parker is no savior, the sooner you realize this the more likely you won't liquidate. Oh yeah, don't believe you are profitable. EVERY airline reporting profits are actually reporting employee concessions and at least 80% of those are from the east. Rome is burning. Unfortunately, West has the water and East has the buckets. You better get it together.

NGINEWHOISWHAT

AMEN, Brother!

Tom

B757200ER

I agree. HP did not save US. Together, they are better than seperate, but I truly wish there was an equitable solution (not DOH, not staple) of these two groups. Neither group deserves a 'windfall' in seniority, as evidenced by AA's acquisition and wholesale destruction of TWA and its employee group.

cactusmike

But there is no DOH and there is no staple in this seniority list. The list has the top 517 slots given to the AAA widebody pilots, then the list is a ratio that amounts to relative seniority, i.e. an AAA Captain stays a Captain, an AWA Captain stays a Captain. How is relative seniority unfair? It does not protect longevity but that is a direct result of the long term failures at AAA. ALPA cannot atone for the failures of a pilot's career. It is unfortunate that there are 18 year F/Os at AAA but they have no right to go ahead of an AWA Captain who has been here 8 years. We were the ones with 6 year upgrades. By the way, America West had a much longer period of corporate success in the last 20 years than did US Air.

I agree, though, that Parker is an idiot. He needs to focus on running an airline. Ufortunately the best manager at the company, Jeff MacClelland, the former president, died of cancer last year. He was the one responsible for the turnaroung in operational performance. I also agree that we are better off as one airline IF the East pilots pull theselves out of this funk and work together for a joint contract. They have the most to gain.

Check 6, I will do a little research on your postion had you stayed. I will tell you that you most likely made the right decision, although you could hold the 757 as a reserve Captain, or a lineholder as A320 Capt.

cactusmike

Check 6 you would be between 2217 (P1765) and 2221 (P1769), out of a total of 6520 on the list. I don't know the active number, I believe the East has about 1400 still furloughed. And there have been retirements and resignations since the snapshot of the list was taken.

CaptainMark

July 17, 2007

MEC Special Update





The America West and US Airways MECs met today in joint session today at the request of ALPA President John Prater. The Executive Council, ALPA attorneys, JNC Members and staff were also in attendance.



The meeting began with opening remarks from Captain Prater and an introduction from the Rice Committee formed by Executive Council resolution. This committee is comprised of Capt. Paul Rice, ALPA First-Vice President and United Airlines pilot, Captain Dave Webb, Federal Express MEC Chairman and Captain Ray Miller, Northwest Airlines MEC Vice Chairman and member of the Executive Council. This committee has clearly stated that their objective is not to tell either side what to do, but instead provide a perspective to the issues facing both our pilot groups and facilitate the development of options to bring the groups back together.



The committee led the discussions, outlining three potential bargaining solutions: A single joint contract, separate contracts and section 6 negotiations for the west. Over the course of the afternoon, they led the group by exploring pros and cons of each option. It was clear to the AWA MEC that either the Section 6 option or the separate ops/contract options had many challenges, not the least of which would be that the effect on the Nicolau Award would be similar to overturning the Award itself.



Regardless of which option was discussed, representatives of the East MEC have made it clear that there are no acceptable solutions absent vacating the seniority award. Several times they notified the entire group that they believe that their pilot group will engage in a process to decertify ALPA when the Executive Council rules to uphold the seniority arbitration.



Simultaneously, the West MEC did not participate in exploring these options but consistently offered their willingness to explore all ideas after the executive council rules on the east’s request to vacate the seniority award in order to achieve a mutually ratifiable joint collective bargaining agreement. Our MEC reviewed the importance of achieving a joint contract with significant economic improvements for all US Airways pilots and the Association as a whole.



While this meeting was an important step in bringing both pilot leaderships together for the first time since the award was announced, our MEC is committed to following ALPA’s Merger Policy and the AWA MEC repeatedly asked that the Executive Council respond to the AAA MEC’s request to overturn the Nicolau Award, and determine that the award is final and binding this week.