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Old 04-20-2022 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
The JetBlue merger will complicate MCO long term. In the short term, it’s a junior base for Spirit.
It’s not junior anymore for the FOs
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Old 04-21-2022 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by OneplusF
It’s not junior anymore for the FOs
Pretty sure a friend JUST out of training got MCO... (NK)
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Old 04-21-2022 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
I don’t know how to post images on here, but someone shared the May NavBlue Trip Mix for MCO. The Pie Chart was almost 4 equal sizes for 1-2-3-4 day trips.

It wasn’t massively out of this world skewed to 1-2 days. There were MORE 1-2 days, but there were still tons of 3-4 days.
You need four 1 day trips to equal the same flying as one 4 day trip. The pie chart is quite misleading because it represents a number of pairings not overall flying. Most people will be doing 3-4 trips.

Let’s say you need four 4 day trips to make a line for one pilot but you need sixteen 1 day trips to make the same line for a single pilot.

If the pie chart represented total block hours and how they were split into pairings that would be different
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Old 04-21-2022 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by OneplusF
It’s not junior anymore for the FOs
People in training are getting it.
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Old 04-21-2022 | 08:06 PM
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F9. If we merge it doesn't matter. If we end up with JBNK F9 will have less competition.
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Old 04-22-2022 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
F9. If we merge it doesn't matter. If we end up with JBNK F9 will have less competition.
Less competition to where? Tyler, TX on Tuesdays? Des Moines on Fridays? Less competition in LAX? EWR? F9's biggest competitor seem to be Allegiant. NK and F9 overlap on roughly 500 out of 2800 routes. That's not exactly hiking up the skirt. I don't think there's anyone with anything bigger than a CRJ9 standing in the way of F9's routes. I can't see how NK alone or with B6 could have a significant impact on F9.
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Old 04-22-2022 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
Less competition to where? Tyler, TX on Tuesdays? Des Moines on Fridays? Less competition in LAX? EWR? F9's biggest competitor seem to be Allegiant. NK and F9 overlap on roughly 500 out of 2800 routes. That's not exactly hiking up the skirt. I don't think there's anyone with anything bigger than a CRJ9 standing in the way of F9's routes. I can't see how NK alone or with B6 could have a significant impact on F9.
F9 has about 115 planes, and 234 on order, We have 180 and plan to grow over 10% per year. Combined plan called for a fleet of 500 by 2026. Allegiant is a quarter of the size of frontier, without the growth plans. Don't you think bumping against each other was the reason for the NK-F9 merger???? And with us flying the JB way, they have the right side of the field open.
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Old 04-22-2022 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
F9 has about 115 planes, and 234 on order, We have 180 and plan to grow over 10% per year. Combined plan called for a fleet of 500 by 2026. Allegiant is a quarter of the size of frontier, without the growth plans. Don't you think bumping against each other was the reason for the NK-F9 merger???? And with us flying the JB way, they have the right side of the field open.
Spirit is incapable of growing this much. We’re already tapping the brakes this summer.
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Old 04-22-2022 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Spirit is incapable of growing this much. We’re already tapping the brakes this summer.
True, but that was the plan.
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Old 04-22-2022 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
True, but that was the plan.
The government chopped our balls off. Let me explain, by allowing the legacies to retire their most senior pilots with the payouts during Covid, it created MASSIVE movement before the age 65 hit. Hence why they can now boast comparable if not better upgrade times to the other carriers. Current movement at the legacies is courtesy of Uncle Sam, and not some genius management at any one legacy carrier…. Age 65 would have eventually hit, but now it’s a double whammy.

Southwest are the most unfortunate bastards in this. They had a beautiful balance sheet, practically no debt, and yet they were treated the same as American….
I’d be ****ing livid if I were there and knew the numbers….
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