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ZapBrannigan 05-12-2022 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3421291)
For many who got screwed by Age 65…..this actually counteracts that and gives them a few more years at the right end of the pay scale. But for others….it just means more time stuck in the mud.


That makes some assumptions. The first being that we all went back to the airlines we were furloughed from. But after the 65 increase, the furloughs were extended so long that many of us just moved on and started over. About a 12 year hit for me.

It also assumes they're already in the left seat. If not, it's just another hit to career earnings.

It also assumes we would medically be able to fly to 67 to recoup those lost earnings. That's a big gamble.

ReadOnly7 05-12-2022 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3421304)
That makes some assumptions. The first being that we all went back to the airlines we were furloughed from. But after the 65 increase, the furloughs were extended so long that many of us just moved on and started over. About a 12 year hit for me.

It also assumes they're already in the left seat. If not, it's just another hit to career earnings.

It also assumes we would medically be able to fly to 67 to recoup those lost earnings. That's a big gamble.

My comment covered all those assumptions. Good for SOME. Not good for others. You are clearly in the “others” camp. It’s a pretty $hitty system when we all have to hope for the end of somebody else’s livelihood to bolster our own. I just hope we all start to get some better contracts and it won’t be such an issue to have people ahead of us.

mkitrn 05-12-2022 11:26 AM

What would happen if you mandatory retired before this went effective (if that were to happen)

tnkrdrvr 05-12-2022 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3421308)
My comment covered all those assumptions. Good for SOME. Not good for others. You are clearly in the “others” camp. It’s a pretty $hitty system when we all have to hope for the end of somebody else’s livelihood to bolster our own. I just hope we all start to get some better contracts and it won’t be such an issue to have people ahead of us.

The challenge for new contracts will be pilot demand dented by age 67, pax airlines still losing money, and possibly (after last quarter’s contraction) a recession. Not exactly the climate for negotiating a contract I would desire.

Andy 05-12-2022 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3421304)
It also assumes we would medically be able to fly to 67 to recoup those lost earnings. That's a big gamble.

I'm counting on being able to go on LTD if the age changes. So, $11K/mo tax free.
That will help supplement my income as a Walmart greeter.

CBreezy 05-12-2022 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by mkitrn (Post 3421310)
What would happen if you mandatory retired before this went effective (if that were to happen)

Once you're off your seniority list, it's permanent

mkitrn 05-12-2022 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3421313)
Once you're off your seniority list, it's permanent

I wonder if people would go fly 121 somewhere for 2-3 years at bottom of the list?

WHACKMASTER 05-12-2022 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by BLMPilot (Post 3421302)
I hope the old grandpas aren’t offended when a gen z has to take the controls during a boomer senior moment. After 65 an auto land should be required on their legs, plus they should be banned from landing at certain airports.

Wow. Dramatic much? I’m totally against raising the age but what a crock of $7it you’re spewing.

Moonbeam 05-12-2022 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by mkitrn (Post 3421314)
I wonder if people would go fly 121 somewhere for 2-3 years at bottom of the list?

I would guess the legacies would stop hiring for a few years if nobody is retiring. But I guess the regionals would be hiring.

mkitrn 05-12-2022 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Moonbeam (Post 3421316)
I would guess the legacies would stop hiring for a few years if nobody is retiring. But I guess the regionals would be hiring.

do you really think though all the 65 year olds are gonna be like let me stay at this another 2-3 years cdc life expectancy male is 76.3… I feel like some folks would take the opportunity but some would still retire?


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