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Myfingershurt 05-12-2022 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Moonbeam (Post 3421316)
I would guess the legacies would stop hiring for a few years if nobody is retiring. But I guess the regionals would be hiring.

Delta would still have to hire the next two years to meet its growth goals. We’re hiring more than we’re retiring by a long shot.

at6d 05-12-2022 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by mkitrn (Post 3421314)
I wonder if people would go fly 121 somewhere for 2-3 years at bottom of the list?

When SWA offered the early out packages, we had several that took it and then went to other 121 carriers I.e. FedEx.

putzin 05-12-2022 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3421315)
Wow. Dramatic much? I’m totally against raising the age but what a crock of $7it you’re spewing.

I love coupled approaches! Don't get your old man pants in a wad, maybe they'll even load our luggage in the van for us. All in good fun! My retirement plan is medical out by 64 and ride that LTD to 68 baby!

at6d 05-12-2022 11:53 AM

I’m guessing the majority that will oppose (like me) were absolutely hammered in our careers from 2000 on. Obviously starting with 9/11, the ATP requirements, the Age 65 change, and the 2008 recession led to the “Lost Decade” generation of pilots, especially coming from the regional world. Those coming aboard a major now, especially to carriers like Delta, United, and American, may not be affected as much due to the mass retirements. Sure, I decided to go to SWA when I got the chance in 2015 after having to leave the regionals to build turbine PIC time in the corporate world (which took almost a decade alone). This would without a doubt increase an already high upgrade time for our generation. I’m in my 14th year of 121 and still have years to go before an upgrade.

aeroengineer 05-12-2022 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3421324)
When SWA offered the early out packages, we had several that took it and then went to other 121 carriers I.e. FedEx.

Serious question. How many went to the 91/135 world?

HalinTexas 05-12-2022 12:07 PM

I could use it!

Airline #2 shut down in 2008, after being downgraded for 4 years, and a very positive, but insincere, suitor leading us to stick around. I was happy at this place all the same.

With the recession, and being out of work several times between contract work in 3 other counties, it's taken me a long time to get a respectable flying gig in the USA.

I instructed at two majors. The industry doesn't respect instructors. Not a lucrative position.

So, I'm flying again. Bottom of the list at 56. Based where I live. Happy about it.

I also have to plan to live until 95. Didn't think that was possible, but seeing my 88 y.o. father, former smoker, half a lung, still hanging on, I don't think 65 and out is going to work for me.

I could use it. I think I've put up with a enough sh!t from this industry.

Andy 05-12-2022 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by aeroengineer (Post 3421328)
Serious question. How many went to the 91/135 world?

739. Seriously, do you think anyone has that data at their fingertips??? :confused:

Moonbeam 05-12-2022 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by mkitrn (Post 3421318)
do you really think though all the 65 year olds are gonna be like let me stay at this another 2-3 years cdc life expectancy male is 76.3… I feel like some folks would take the opportunity but some would still retire?

I don't have the breakdown of pilots that make it to 65, but I am sure it is a high percentage. I am sure it will be the same at 67. I remember interviewing at Pinnacle with a bunch of pilots that missed the last age change. It will play out the same way, 401k is way down, inflation, why retire when I am making 300k with 6 weeks vacation, etc.... Lather, rinse and repeat. Pilot career never changes, nor do pilots. Plus I am pretty sure we are already in a recession. Seems like more and more people are getting laid off outside of aviation.

Dobbs18 05-12-2022 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3421237)
Great. More babysitting.

no doubt.....can't even work an iPad....what are they going to do when printing the release goes away?!! oh the horror....I'm done, just done....they all had there careers, time for the next generation...I want to be senior, not a senior citizen.

aeroengineer 05-12-2022 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3421336)
739. Seriously, do you think anyone has that data at their fingertips??? :confused:

Wow. Sorry wasn't expecting an exact number just a ballpark if known.


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