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Originally Posted by Crockrocket95
(Post 3438299)
I hope it happens.
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So cadet program, Envoy FO, 2 yr upgrade, flow in 5 or 6, and then take a 100K pay cut to be a mainline FO? Then work another 5ish yrs to get back to what you were making at Envoy? I'm confused.
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Just so I understand:
Envoy negotiated a pay raise with a sunset provision? Seems like the smart money in a record hiring environment would be to leave as soon as possible to get on with the major of your choice asap anyway (seniority, better overall earning potential, job stability, etc) If you’re at Envoy and sixty years old, or don’t want to leave for other non-pay related reasons, this is ok, I guess. But it’s not going to stem the flow of pilots leaving for greener pastures the second they’re able. Maybe drum up some new entrants for a bit, but even those will leave as quickly as possible. |
Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
(Post 3438401)
Just so I understand:
Envoy negotiated a pay raise with a sunset provision? Seems like the smart money in a record hiring environment would be to leave as soon as possible to get on with the major of your choice asap anyway (seniority, better overall earning potential, job stability, etc) If you’re at Envoy and sixty years old, or don’t want to leave for other non-pay related reasons, this is ok, I guess. But it’s not going to stem the flow of pilots leaving for greener pastures the second they’re able. Maybe drum up some new entrants for a bit, but even those will leave as quickly as possible. It will, because pilots are stupid. They won’t be able to afford the pay cut. And more and more of them will justify staying. |
Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
(Post 3438401)
Envoy negotiated a pay raise with a sunset provision?
Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
(Post 3438401)
Seems like the smart money in a record hiring environment would be to leave as soon as possible to get on with the major of your choice asap anyway (seniority, better overall earning potential, job stability, etc)
If you’re at Envoy and sixty years old, or don’t want to leave for other non-pay related reasons, this is ok, I guess. But it’s not going to stem the flow of pilots leaving for greener pastures the second they’re able. Maybe drum up some new entrants for a bit, but even those will leave as quickly as possible. |
Originally Posted by Al Czervik
(Post 3438353)
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
(Post 3438593)
Why just Envoy ? What about the other two WO’s??
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All 3 will end up with something similar.
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
(Post 3438593)
Why just Envoy ? What about the other two WO’s??
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Originally Posted by elmetal
(Post 3438273)
No. This is real.
And after year 5 you're on year 20 pay until your flow date. That's right, 213/hr year 6 at a regional. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk |
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