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TransWorld 06-11-2022 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 3438935)
These pay rates are only temporary for 2 years. Are you sure the $213 rate you are talking about applies after that two years? Year 20 at the normal new pay rates will be $142.50.

Maybe it is temporary for 2 years. Or, my bet, the critical shortage continues. If this stems the tide, they get extended.

idlethrust 06-12-2022 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by IamEssential (Post 3436802)
Let's get off mom's cause I just got off yours.

Cleared direct to SKANK intersection, then descend via the hoe6 . Keep your speed up , you’re number one , there is a line of guys behind you 😂😂

OldManRiver 06-12-2022 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3438942)
Maybe it is temporary for 2 years. Or, my bet, the critical shortage continues. If this stems the tide, they get extended.

My bet of this stems………the regionals be shrunk and dissolved, and all of the flying will be brought in house by mainline.

rickair7777 06-12-2022 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by OldManRiver (Post 3439335)
My bet of this stems………the regionals be shrunk and dissolved, and all of the flying will be brought in house by mainline.

That's exactly what AA is trying to AVOID by doing this. Retain/recruit people now, but keep the flexibility to revert compensation back to regional norms later on, when the shortage ends (and it WILL end eventually, one way or another, make no mistake on that). Will it work? Don't know, but it will help.

Cyio 06-13-2022 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3439363)
That's exactly what AA is trying to AVOID by doing this. Retain/recruit people now, but keep the flexibility to revert compensation back to regional norms later on, when the shortage ends (and it WILL end eventually, one way or another, make no mistake on that). Will it work? Don't know, but it will help.

Yeah I learned long ago that just because you are owned by AA, they have no desire to make you one of them. Everyone from AA management on down to the pilot group will do whatever it takes to keep from combining the lists.

Al Czervik 06-13-2022 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3439945)
Yeah I learned long ago that just because you are owned by AA, they have no desire to make you one of them. Everyone from AA management on down to the pilot group will do whatever it takes to keep from combining the lists.

I think the new generation at AA feels the opposite. The guard is changing amongst AA pilots and I think they’d be open to anything that puts the pilots in the best position.

biigD 06-13-2022 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3439956)
I think the new generation at AA feels the opposite. The guard is changing amongst AA pilots and I think they’d be open to anything that puts the pilots in the best position.

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Margaritaville 06-13-2022 07:38 AM

Meanwhile AA WO pilots be like

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rickair7777 06-13-2022 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3439956)
I think the new generation at AA feels the opposite. The guard is changing amongst AA pilots and I think they’d be open to anything that puts the [mainline] pilots in the best position.

Fixed it.
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Excargodog 06-13-2022 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3440021)
Fixed it.
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Agreed. Regional pilots expecting their major airline brethren to look after them are looking for something that has never been. Even the regional alums at the majors look at it as “I paid MY dues to get here, Screw-em, they can pay theirs”. It isn’t just major airline management that benefits from cheap feed.


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