JC Penny’s sells $5000 suits?!

I like to slum it and try to fit in with the poors/proles/commoners. You know, the people’s pilot.

I commissioned New Balance for a set of special/one off $5000 shoes and matching phone holster.

When the moms see me roll up, well, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel really. And that’s before they even know I’m a pilot.

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So far this thread is winning 2022.

Ah the VM Varga approach, oft under appreciated but damn if it isn’t effective!

It isn’t so much a good price, but rather the only acceptable one

I do that with my airport car, which I actually got when my old man kicked the bucket and it was just sitting in my moms driveway collecting mold. However, I really love cars. I’ve read every issue of car and driver since about 1998. So I have a 700+ horsepower shiny noisemaker too. Gotta have a hobby. When the beater my wife was driving left her and the kids stranded on the freeway while I was recovering from a redeye in the Westin DTW I decided to get her a new car too. Mostly because I think the safety improvements are important and let’s be honest, we can totally afford a decent kid hauler off the dealer lot. Don’t get me wrong, I still played the game: waited till the end of the month, shopped around, pitted 3 dealers against each other and nailed down a less than 1% interest rate. Dave Ramsay would be shaking his head, but who Fin cares.

I have a 1991 Nissan maxima I bought for 1k 10yrs ago that keeps going.

By the end of 2022 it will cost $5,000 just to buy a weeks worth of groceries and a tank of gas.

I’ll still refuse to spend more then that on a car though

I do the same. I keep my wife in a new car. Last thing I need is her and the kids on the side of the road while I’m in the air. Sometimes “piece of mind” is worth more than financial sense

Yup. I’m frugal. I spend like “50 cent in the club” on the wife/kids.

I thought due to inflation, 50cent is now known as "buck fifty cent" .... or pound in the UK

I spend like 50 cent on the single moms with kids in the “club”.

That I drove too in my Miata, while wearing $5000 suits and watches, that the pilot moms bought me. Yeah, it’s like that.

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Hey, better than years while ago, when it was like tooo-buck 50 cent per pound.

To be fair, I live in a nice neighborhood, and park in the garage as quickly as possible.

We all have our crosses to bear. :)

Ha. Truth.

Sorry, can't resist. Frontal lobe or cerebellum?

wooooooooooooooooooooo

This thread is peak APC.

I'm having a hard time holding these alligators down! Whoo whoooo!

To be the man, you gotta beat the man!

Let's get off mom's cause I just got off yours.

Bad brakes?

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pretty much coast to a stop

Have your Mom start charging you less and stop eating out at Red Lobster then you only need to take home $60K and you can apply at Avelo. You seem like the kinda guy who could wear 8 stripes on each shoulder.

You’ve more or less monopolized the 8-stripe crowd.I’m honestly curious… What satisfaction does trolling bring you?

Go to Envoy!!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ae7e1ca482.jpg

Am I being trolled?

No. This is real.

And after year 5 you're on year 20 pay until your flow date.


That's right, 213/hr year 6 at a regional.

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I hope it happens.

It’s a done deal. Official announcement today I believe.

So cadet program, Envoy FO, 2 yr upgrade, flow in 5 or 6, and then take a 100K pay cut to be a mainline FO? Then work another 5ish yrs to get back to what you were making at Envoy? I'm confused.

Just so I understand:

Envoy negotiated a pay raise with a sunset provision?

Seems like the smart money in a record hiring environment would be to leave as soon as possible to get on with the major of your choice asap anyway (seniority, better overall earning potential, job stability, etc)

If you’re at Envoy and sixty years old, or don’t want to leave for other non-pay related reasons, this is ok, I guess.

But it’s not going to stem the flow of pilots leaving for greener pastures the second they’re able. Maybe drum up some new entrants for a bit, but even those will leave as quickly as possible.

It will, because pilots are stupid.
They won’t be able to afford the pay cut.
And more and more of them will justify staying.

Yup, devil is in the details as always.

Yup. Cash on the barrel does make a difference, for some people and with enough cash, but most pilots are smart enough to take a longer-term view (nature of the profession). But if you're young and legacy bound it's very attractive way to get fast PIC at excellent pay rates... so good recruiting move.

Why just Envoy ? What about the other two WO’s??

Robert don’t-spend-any-more-than-i-want-to Isom probably figured he just has to slow the bleeding just enough and if he can do it by only paying a fraction of the pilot group, why not? Strike a deal with one. Wait, see if the correction takes effect.

All 3 will end up with something similar.

PDT negotiated similar rates.

These pay rates are only temporary for 2 years. Are you sure the $213 rate you are talking about applies after that two years? Year 20 at the normal new pay rates will be $142.50.