Maybe it is temporary for 2 years. Or, my bet, the critical shortage continues. If this stems the tide, they get extended.

Cleared direct to SKANK intersection, then descend via the hoe6 . Keep your speed up , you’re number one , there is a line of guys behind you 😂😂

My bet of this stems………the regionals be shrunk and dissolved, and all of the flying will be brought in house by mainline.

That's exactly what AA is trying to AVOID by doing this. Retain/recruit people now, but keep the flexibility to revert compensation back to regional norms later on, when the shortage ends (and it WILL end eventually, one way or another, make no mistake on that). Will it work? Don't know, but it will help.

Yeah I learned long ago that just because you are owned by AA, they have no desire to make you one of them. Everyone from AA management on down to the pilot group will do whatever it takes to keep from combining the lists.

I think the new generation at AA feels the opposite. The guard is changing amongst AA pilots and I think they’d be open to anything that puts the pilots in the best position.

Meanwhile AA WO pilots be like

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Agreed. Regional pilots expecting their major airline brethren to look after them are looking for something that has never been. Even the regional alums at the majors look at it as “I paid MY dues to get here, Screw-em, they can pay theirs”. It isn’t just major airline management that benefits from cheap feed.

I'm not interested in screwing them. But neither am I interested in expending negotiating capital to do anything for them either. Unless it somehow helps me. Lost gen, don't have time make even more sacrifices in hopes that it will pay off with a better industry in 20-30 years.

only if you are living in base, a little lucky with reroutes and want absolutely no life.

Ask around and see how many 2019/2020 SWA hires came anywhere close to 110K (If any did, I guarantee, #1 they lived in base within a month of hitting the line, and #2 had absolutely no home life to make it happen, working 6 days a week all year)

Amazing how this country is set up that way, but there is no systemic biases built in, just ask Tucker..... I'll pass on the rest of my thoughts as this isn't a podcast.

AND you are paying YOURSELF back, not a bank. Not to mention, the $$ in your loan isn't available to the market (thus kind of "protected" from the sh1tshow of the economy--at least that's what Scwhab says).

Meh. Being poor is tough everywhere in the world, in every country, in every civilization.

“Systemic biases” is just ivory tower language for garden variety envy. One of the seven deadly sins for a reason.

You want something, go out and f-ing earn it.

LATE 2019 hire, BWI based, then displaced to LAX, made over 116K not living in base and when times were weird. I didn't work 20 days a month.

New hires are cleaning up now will probably pull north of 120K first year if they don't mind picking up a few trips, lots of opportunity. When I was a probie there was NO open time, and NOTHING in GA. It was tougher. Shoot, I bet a new hire could do 150K with the open time trips available this year.

So who really makes the between SWA, AA, UAL, DAL? Not gonna put FedEx in this one because they are in a whole other league.

If you figure reserve months pay around 105 average at year 1 pay it’s over $95K. Add per diem and some second year paying trips, maybe some pickups here and there…$120K totally doable.

Salary is Salary. Per Diem is expenses incurred whilst on company business. That said to add per Diem to salary is nothing short of fantasy land.

We are just talking about total earnings potential for first year guys. Look at it how you want.

This is the theoretical answer.

This is the practical answer. I'm too lazy to pack bologna and kraft singles on wonder bread so I consume my per diem on the road. And tip van drivers. Some try to conserve it, so maybe they count it as income.

Every job I've ever had has included both reimbursed and unreimbursed expenses. We all have a sense of what our job expenses are in this industry, so trying to dissect what goes into any particular paycheck seems kind of silly. My pay is what gets deposited, no matter where it comes from. Calling some dollars by a different name means nothing except for what amounts to a very small amount of tax treatment.

Same same. All I care about is that gross number on the stub, then the take home.

People like to parse/mince it all, whatever.

I get compensated per flight house, and I get compensated for expenses incurred whilst away.

Thread drift somewhat….

​​​​​​…….at current prices, perdiem is pretty substandard nowadays.