Garbage TA rates, what’s going on here?
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the potential strike is delayed, not necessarily off the table, unless I missed member ratification already happening.
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The railroad unions are currently voting on their TA. Obviously, if they reject it, a strike may be back on the table. If the timeline pushes the start of a strike past early November, I could see the current administration letting it happen. Although, that’s playing with fire.
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Ratification is in progress but it's multiple union groups, so while several have already ratified it's not a done deal. Kind of like if our contracts were bundled with FA's, mechanics, CSAs, and rampers... and all the other airlines. Potential hot mess.
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They actually never reached the point of being released. They agreed to a TA before the 30 day PEB deadline expired.
The railroad unions are currently voting on their TA. Obviously, if they reject it, a strike may be back on the table. If the timeline pushes the start of a strike past early November, I could see the current administration letting it happen. Although, that’s playing with fire.
The administration’s hand have been dealt. There is nothing, legally, they can do if the unions reject the TA, to prevent a strike. It would be up to congress at that point if they want to prevent a possible strike.
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The administration’s hand have been dealt. There is nothing, legally, they can do if the unions reject the TA, to prevent a strike. It would be up to congress at that point if they want to prevent a possible strike.
There is a difference between what administration’s legally can do and what often happens. If the union is told they aren’t released to self help, even though they have jumped through the legal hoops, they would then need to sue in Federal courts. This takes time and money.
There is a difference between what administration’s legally can do and what often happens. If the union is told they aren’t released to self help, even though they have jumped through the legal hoops, they would then need to sue in Federal courts. This takes time and money.
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Because in pattern bargaining, the floor was set this time around by the sub inflation AS rates, and there reliance on me-too catch up clauses. Let others do the heavy lifting was the over arching strategy there.
This set the floor from which everyone else is working from.
This set the floor from which everyone else is working from.
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I wouldn't take it personally. Im sure each of the surviving airlines has done there share of slumming and lowering the bar somewhere along the way, whether it's scope, rates, codes are, etc
What AS has done this time is what it is. They've set the floor. And the rest will now have that inertia to overcome. It is what is. It'll be someone else next time around.
Don't take my word for it. Ask any of the NCs thier opinions if the AS TA is a thrust or drag producing device.
What AS has done this time is what it is. They've set the floor. And the rest will now have that inertia to overcome. It is what is. It'll be someone else next time around.
Don't take my word for it. Ask any of the NCs thier opinions if the AS TA is a thrust or drag producing device.
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Organized labor is only weak because we have no recourse,the government won't let us strike.... That needs to be removed from the railroad labor act.
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