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StickPig 01-02-2023 04:09 PM
Originally Posted by lake (Post 3563995)
Think about it. It's the only industry where the US government makes you retire at 65 but won't let you collect full SS until 67 ish. So i would support this bill based on that alone. When you personally choose to retire is your business.
When it personally affects hundreds of pax in the back, it’s no longer just your business.

interceptorpilo 01-02-2023 04:17 PM
Originally Posted by lake (Post 3563995)
Think about it. It's the only industry where the US government makes you retire at 65 but won't let you collect full SS until 67 ish. So i would support this bill based on that alone. When you personally choose to retire is your business.
This is simply not true. Federal Law Enforcement Officers must retire by 57. I am sure there are other examples.

Planetrain 01-02-2023 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by interceptorpilo (Post 3564007)
This is simply not true. Federal Law Enforcement Officers must retire by 57. I am sure there are other examples.
Forgot Air Traffic Controllers, 56.

crewdawg 01-02-2023 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by StickPig (Post 3564004)
When it personally affects hundreds of pax in the back, it’s no longer just your business.
I'm not for raising the retirement age, but he does bring up a good point. If we're forced by the government to retire at 65, we should be able draw full social security at 65. ​​​​​​​

interceptorpilo 01-02-2023 04:24 PM
Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3564014)
I'm not for raising the retirement age, but he does bring up a good point. If we're forced by the government to retire at 65, we should be able draw full social security at 65.
I support that. Put our efforts there and I think everyone could get behind it.

FL370esq 01-02-2023 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3563800)
100% Hard no.
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I suspect Wayne would agree with you...

DeltaboundRedux 01-02-2023 04:41 PM
Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 3564009)
Forgot Air Traffic Controllers, 56.
Negotiated by the ATC controller union. Everyone hired pre-age 56 contract was grandfathered in and could work until they stroked out at their screens or died of asbestos poisoning . And those those guys had a defined benefit pension with a COLA, which made sticking around extra-stupid.

(I think age 65 is stupid for pilots, btw. Age 67 is ridiculous.)

Whoopsmybad 01-02-2023 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 3564009)
Forgot Air Traffic Controllers, 56.
They have a pension, at least federal law enforcement. Not 100% about ATC.

Edit: someone above said it, they have pensions too. Not saying this is a reason to go to 67, but that’s a big difference when you are funding your own retirement.

interceptorpilo 01-02-2023 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3564034)
They have a pension, at least federal law enforcement. Not 100% about ATC.

Edit: someone above said it, they have pensions too. Not saying this is a reason to go to 67, but that’s a big difference when you are funding your own retirement.
They have a pension that pales in comparison to what we can put away compounded over a few years. Ask me how I know.

m3113n1a1 01-02-2023 04:57 PM
Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3564034)
They have a pension, at least federal law enforcement. Not 100% about ATC.

Edit: someone above said it, they have pensions too. Not saying this is a reason to go to 67, but that’s a big difference when you are funding your own retirement.
Boohoo funding your own retirement? Much rather have our DC than ANY kind of pension. Everyone is all about personal responsibility here until it comes to funding your own retirement.


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