Union guys please explain
#2
If your trip goes from A to B and the layover is 24 hours then for every four hours away you get one hour of flight time pay. Often this would be greater than the actual hours flown for that trip. It is used to keep the company from making inefficient trips. I don't know where the 2:1 would come in though. That would be very generous.
#3
Not an AWAC guy, but 2:1 might apply to things like Continuous duty overnights or deadheads.
IE for every two hours of duty you get paid one hour (ACA/IDE had this duty rig in their contract for CDO's). Some airlines also have 2:1 deadheads (such as Piedmont), where you get paid 1/2 block time for deadheads.
IE for every two hours of duty you get paid one hour (ACA/IDE had this duty rig in their contract for CDO's). Some airlines also have 2:1 deadheads (such as Piedmont), where you get paid 1/2 block time for deadheads.
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2:1 trip rig means that you will get paid the GREATER of the block (flight) time or 1/2 of the duty period. This ensures that if you have a long sit (or several) in the middle of your work day that you don't have a 12 hour duty day with only say 3-4 hours of pay
4:1 trip rig means that you get paid at least 1 hour for each hour away from base (includes off duty rest time on layovers). This means that if you get a 30 hour layover you still get paid.
Trip and duty rigs rarely come into effect. If you have rigs, the company will try to schedule you to avoid activating the rigs...they don't want to pay you to sit on your butt.
But if you DON'T have rigs...stand by for LONG duty days and layovers with no pay. Lack of rigs just encourages the company to schedule crap at their convenience. This is why work rules are vitally important.
Lack of rigs will probably cost you 4 days off each month. You'll be sitting in a holiday inn in the airport industrial zone NOT getting paid... on what should have been a day off.
4:1 trip rig means that you get paid at least 1 hour for each hour away from base (includes off duty rest time on layovers). This means that if you get a 30 hour layover you still get paid.
Trip and duty rigs rarely come into effect. If you have rigs, the company will try to schedule you to avoid activating the rigs...they don't want to pay you to sit on your butt.
But if you DON'T have rigs...stand by for LONG duty days and layovers with no pay. Lack of rigs just encourages the company to schedule crap at their convenience. This is why work rules are vitally important.
Lack of rigs will probably cost you 4 days off each month. You'll be sitting in a holiday inn in the airport industrial zone NOT getting paid... on what should have been a day off.
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For example, my former airline used to have a 72 hour layover in CSG. The block time (pay) from ATl to CSG was something like .53.
Trip and duty rigs keep you from getting paid one hour to be gone three, or four, days.
Trip and duty rigs keep you from getting paid one hour to be gone three, or four, days.
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Duty rigs frequently come into play when there are unexpected delays, such as for weather or maintenance. If you haven't blocked out, you're not getting flight time, but you will get 1 hour of pay for every 2 hours of sitting around.
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