60av8tor

Multiple threads lately about "culture"... Read the responses you have received and pick up on common themes. You seem new to 121 - we all were at some point. The culture you should care about is your contract and where you live relative to your (potential) base. I go to work (not very often), fly with great people the overwhelming majority of the time, go home again and focus on my life - which is great due to my income and large amount of home time. That's it, nothing more. One could say my company culture is focused on dei and drag shows. The reality is I fly jets for a lot of money with a lot of good dudes. That's what all the top 3 do. Will you, on the rare occasion, fly with a "servant leader" d bag? Yes - at any airline.

Culture...🤦‍♂️

Otterbox

DAL has a much higher level of koolaid/ indoctrination during their interview process and indoc which transitions to more of a regimented line experience (CAs pulling over other CAs for perceived uniform violations, FOs sending emails quoting OE guides and FOM to offending parties if they don't return their seat/side of the flight deck to the proper preflight setup etc.) where conformity is prioritized. UAL has a bunch of koolaid in BI, but spares a lot of expenses during indoc (No flight museum dinner etc.) but turns on the propaganda during CA charm school and OE. As a result newer CAs are a bit more pro company and uptight than FOs and more seasoned CAs but not usually to the level of stupidness caught on the internet​​​​​​ or line pilots confronting each other in the terminal over perceived uniform violations or deviations from aircraft setups. Both have their fair share of morons, both have their fair share of laid back, both have people who define their lives by their job title and schedule, both have people who show up when they have to and leave work behind as soon as possible.

All that being said the first class date then life where you work. Work where you life. Both are excellent sources of pay and have plenty of different types of flying that people can find their niche and dig in to maximize what they define as quality of life.

nene

In my experience moving around the country with the military, I've always found that people generally validate their choices over others and often hold stongly believed/heard opinions about other places they don't use.

I'd usually ask families about schools, and generally thier school was OK, but almost every other part of town had problems with their schools.

They'd say thier church has it together, but almost every other church had a fact or rumor of shenanigans and/or difficulties.

Just look at congress, most people will say that their own congressman/woman is doing god's work and saving the nation, yet the general approval rating of congress overall is usually into the teens.

It seems people are biased towards their own decisions and will highlight precieved culture flaws of others and dismiss their own locations issues.

With over 17,000K pilots at both, there will be nut cases, boring, and everything else between. It's your job to join and help create the culture you want to work in.

Noisecanceller

Solid troll post

FangsF15

LMAO. I love when people who don’t work at a place purport to have special knowledge of its culture, and/or just look for an opportunity to bash.

To the OP: None of the above is true of any airline’s “culture”. There is no difference which should weigh in your decision. Every airline has its “special” one-off pilots, and both places are good places to work. As others have said, never pass on a legacy class date, and leave for another legacy if it means you will drive to work. UA’s seniority progression is probably slightly more attractive that DL’s as of now, but that’s just a tie-breaker, as is the prospect of future WB flying. The rest is just noise. Good luck.

PNWFlyer

wow, looks like we found the guy in the video. Name checks out!!

I didn’t claim to know Delta’s culture, I was just asking the OP a question. You know, the OP that claims to know Delta's culture but doesn’t work there. Funny you didn’t quote him.

every one, please wave at FangsF15 your servant leader… he is the one in the hat!

FangsF15

Lol, little sensitive there, dude? If only you knew… Why? Because the OP asked a humble question, trying to learn. I’m just trying to add to the positive discourse in the midst of the cesspool of a few people who just look to bash that which they clearly do not know, just for jolly’s. Whatever, dude, you do you. I don’t seek or need your validation.

rekatron

I'll attempt to answer the question rather than write more condescending unsolicited advice:

UAL: 50/50 lazy widebody pilot/domestic grind pilot culture -- it really is 2 different airlines. Tons of pilots will bypass upgrade and sit on the right seat of a 777 for decades. Widebodies are seen as the bread and butter, and company seems to want to essentially be the flag carrier of the U.S. UAL seems to have a more international/cosmopolitan mindset than DAL where most of the flying is domestic. Less strict about uniform conformity. Operationally a step behind Delta but has closed the gap significantly since 2020. C-suite leans on the younger side, CEO is the youngest of the big 4 by a decade. A lot more reasonable when it comes to military stuff than DAL. MEC had a LOT of infighting in the last few years, but seems to have stabilized. Still a step behind DAL there, too.

Hubcapped

in 10 years at DAL i have never seen this. Do you work at DAL?

Broncofan

probably because you have bought into the cool aid… kidding! Sorry I was too easy