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airchina981 06-19-2024 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 3812490)

2. Jumpseating is a privelege not a right. The jumpseat and who rides on the aircraft is at the discretion of the captain. I was taught oh so many years ago when I started this career that even if you have a seat in the cabin that the captain gives the final blessing as to whether or not you ride. Therefore, ask don't assume.

Under what circumstances are you going to tell the guy who has been assigned 32B in the back, no he cannot ride? Just curious.

luv757 06-19-2024 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by airchina981 (Post 3812529)
Under what circumstances are you going to tell the guy who has been assigned 32B in the back, no he cannot ride? Just curious.

If 32B is listed as a jumpseater like it or not that is at the discretion of the Captain. 32B isn’t on any kind of pass benefit or paid travel. Also is 32B a scab? Something else I like to know.

RJSAviator76 06-19-2024 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by airchina981 (Post 3812529)
Under what circumstances are you going to tell the guy who has been assigned 32B in the back, no he cannot ride? Just curious.

Is he wearing shorts, T-shirt and slippers while technically a jumpseater?

airchina981 06-19-2024 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3812540)
Is he wearing shorts, T-shirt and slippers while technically a jumpseater?

Yes. But he checked in with his uniform and then changed into pajamas in the lav.

As much grief people give the TSA about us having to be in unifrom to get through a checkpoint, it doesnt work the same way round when we are running the show.

FlyGuy2021 06-19-2024 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3812540)
Is he wearing shorts, T-shirt and slippers while technically a jumpseater?

If they are sitting in the back, who gives a crap what they are wearing? It is another pilot catching a ride. Don't be obtuse.

at6d 06-19-2024 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021 (Post 3812553)
If they are sitting in the back, who gives a crap what they are wearing? It is another pilot catching a ride. Don't be obtuse.

Because a jumpseater needs to comply with the appropriate dress policy? Do you also waive the alcohol rules?

RJSAviator76 06-19-2024 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021 (Post 3812553)
If they are sitting in the back, who gives a crap what they are wearing? It is another pilot catching a ride. Don't be obtuse.

So what you're saying is we should willfully disregard and purposefully refuse to comply with what our FOM and Ops Binder say because "It's another pilot catching a ride, and not to be obtuse."

Great... what else do you think we should be willfully noncomplying with?

wndriver 06-20-2024 04:34 AM

It's easy to tell if a pilot is new in the industry or not by seeing how they're dressed and how they check in with the Captain. The seasoned one always check in and ask for the ride with ID and certificates ready, regardless of having a seat in the back. Most new people will just tell you he'll be in the back.

Hedley 06-20-2024 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by airchina981 (Post 3812529)
Under what circumstances are you going to tell the guy who has been assigned 32B in the back, no he cannot ride? Just curious.

What would you do if a jumpseater came into the flight deck, stowed their bag, and announced that they were the jumpseater rather than ask? Just brush it off because.... who cares? Lecture them on professionalism and proper etiquette and envite them to start over? Deny the jumpseat and suggest that they brush up on proper procedures while they wait for the next flight? Regardless of where you sit, you are still a jumpseater. Proper attire and jumpseat etiquette/procedures always apply. Personally, I'd start with the second option. If their attitude didn't immediately change, I'd exercise option 3.

DenVa 06-20-2024 12:40 PM

So, 8 pilot JS’ers all with a seat in the back are supposed to check in? Talk about task interruption.

And, why must they absolutely do it? But the 7 OAL FA’s just walk on through. I’ve never seen one check in with the fight deck.

And, yes, I’ve seen this happen. The poor pilots couldn’t get anything done without being interrupted.


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