Proposal to Remove ATC Function from FAA

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12-15-2024 | 06:59 PM

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I don't have a problem with some Towers, and AFSS, being contractor operated.

Nationwide, no.

12-15-2024 | 07:06 PM

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From: 787 FO

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Says the libertarian who cannot tell us of one successful economy on earth without a central bank and a regulated economy.

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer

The United States, for about half of its history.

So, you can't name any in the last 110 years. I wonder why nobody uses the Austrian school's principles? Too funny.

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Originally Posted by ReluctantEskimo

Then what are you suggesting? Competing ATC systems?

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Originally Posted by OpieTaylor

I would let NASA operate some FAA operate some, and Lockheed operate some.

NASA? WTF?

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You have no idea what can and can’t be automated to reduce payroll.

There are huge incentives in place to automate the processes and equipment especially with a huge controller shortage, and numerous technology companies have tried. That has little to do with privatizing ATC or not. All of those in favor have to explain how you do it without just transferring to a private monopoly which defeats the implied purpose of privatization.

12-15-2024 | 07:06 PM

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The United States, for about half of its history.

The same could be said for electricity. You wanna go back to that too?

12-15-2024 | 07:13 PM

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What privatization proponents fail to address is how they accomplish these things without either slashing service or raising costs. Because now the national ATC system is beholden to shareholders. Not the American citizens.

12-16-2024 | 03:11 AM

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There’s a lot of bloat in the giant bureaucracy that allows money to go to waste.See NextGen.

12-16-2024 | 03:22 AM

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Bureaucracy and safety deficiencies? See Boeing.

12-16-2024 | 09:23 AM

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There’s a lot of bloat in the giant bureaucracy that allows money to go to waste.See NextGen.

You mean the NextGen that still isn’t fully operational and is 80s technology?

12-16-2024 | 12:59 PM

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the profit motive and safety are not always (often?) aligned. the product is air safety, and making that an mba’s cost slashing project is a bad idea.

My aviation experience is that companies are most hazardous when they're NOT making money. I've been airline, military, corporate, OEM, so take it for what's it is worth--profitable outfits are more willing to pay for safety fixes.