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JulesWinfield 01-03-2025 11:16 AM

Taxes - Fed/State/Property/Sales
 

Originally Posted by 80emb145 (Post 3866959)

first time I broke $100k+ in taxes

So bittersweet.

beech1980 01-05-2025 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by 80emb145 (Post 3866959)
swa 6/7 fo

line pay: 355k
bonus: 103k
nec: 46k
new mbcbp: 3.5k

total comp including per diem: 515k
14-15 days off. I count an unused rsv day as a day off.

first time I broke $100k+ in taxes

I paid 227k in taxes. Work 5 months for the gooberment... maddening!

flyguy81 01-06-2025 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by MadCat360 (Post 3867870)
PC-12/C90 PIC, year 2

Base salary: $57,916
Flight day pay: $19,825
Total comp: $77,741
Per diem: $4,006

Days flown: 114
Overnights: 23
Days on call: all of them

I feel small after some of the numbers here 😂

If it makes you feel better that’s more than I made in 2008 as a 50 seat RJ CA. Lol

Stan446 01-06-2025 08:08 AM

Taxes - Fed/State/Property/Sales
 

Originally Posted by beech1980 (Post 3867849)
I paid 227k in taxes. Work 5 months for the gooberment... maddening!

Unless you made 2 mil. you didn't pay 227K in taxes. A 450K income is about 90K in tax obligation.

BoilerUP 01-06-2025 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3867960)
Unless you made 2 mil. you didn't pay 227K in taxes. A 450K income is about 90K in tax obligation.

$500k taxable income is about $125k in federal tax liability, before consideration of state income tax.

beech1980 01-06-2025 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3867960)
Unless you made 2 mil. you didn't pay 227K in taxes. A 450K income is about 90K in tax obligation.

i live in a high tax state. Thanks for telling me what I did or did not pay in taxes.

155 federal
13.3 medicare
10453, social security
48.7 state income tax

beech1980 01-06-2025 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3867960)
Unless you made 2 mil. you didn't pay 227K in taxes. A 450K income is about 90K in tax obligation.

where I live you pay about 900k in taxes on 2 million. Don't ask me how I know... Two workers. It's sad but true.

Boxhound 01-06-2025 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by beech1980 (Post 3867978)
where I live you pay about 900k in taxes on 2 million. Don't ask me how I know... Two workers. It's sad but true.


“Mo money, Mo problems”

Biggie Smalls

rickair7777 01-06-2025 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3867960)
Unless you made 2 mil. you didn't pay 227K in taxes. A 450K income is about 90K in tax obligation.

Bahahahahahhaaaaa....

FangsF15 01-06-2025 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3867960)
Unless you made 2 mil. you didn't pay 227K in taxes. A 450K income is about 90K in tax obligation.

Lol, I WISH. I made ~$466 at DL last year and had almost $160k withheld ($135k Federal, almost $25k State)

I HOPE I won't be short on April 15th.

Smooth at FL450 01-06-2025 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3867960)
Unless you made 2 mil. you didn't pay 227K in taxes. A 450K income is about 90K in tax obligation.

I'm at 161k federal on 675k income...so you're telling me the curve flattens as the income gets higher??? Pretty sure that's not the scale I've looked at...

DogPit 01-06-2025 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3867960)
Unless you made 2 mil. you didn't pay 227K in taxes. A 450K income is about 90K in tax obligation.

You don’t understand how taxes work.

Profane Kahuna 01-06-2025 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by beech1980 (Post 3867978)
where I live you pay about 900k in taxes on 2 million. Don't ask me how I know... Two workers. It's sad but true.


That's great and stupid at the same time. 45% in taxes?



.

ReadOnly7 01-06-2025 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Boxhound (Post 3867988)
“Mo money, Mo problems”

Biggie Smalls

Diddy’s in that song, also.

John Carr 01-07-2025 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by Boxhound (Post 3867988)
“Mo money, Mo problems”

Biggie Smalls


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3868141)
Diddy’s in that song, also.

Mo money, mo baby oil.

beech1980 01-07-2025 02:11 AM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3868098)
That's great and stupid at the same time. 45% in taxes?



.

very stupid... 9.85% state income tax once you hit 330k. People often are confused as to why people with high incomes would flee such a state!? Taxes are atrocious and it's cold AF.

AF OneWire 01-07-2025 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3868098)
That's great and stupid at the same time. 45% in taxes?



.

and the bottom 41% of wage earners pay zero federal taxes, and often get refunds from tax credits.

flyguy81 01-07-2025 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by beech1980 (Post 3868156)
very stupid... 9.85% state income tax once you hit 330k. People often are confused as to why people with high incomes would flee such a state!? Taxes are atrocious and it's cold AF.

MN I guess. Got a few friends there who aren’t pleased with state taxes but that’s where family is so whatcha gonna do? 😬

Boxhound 01-07-2025 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 3868152)
Mo money, mo baby oil.

Dammit John!!!


checkmated again!!!

Stan446 01-08-2025 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3868089)
You don’t understand how taxes work.

Really? Its a graduated tax system. 450K was about 90K fed liability. And I live in a state with no income tax.

172skychicken 01-08-2025 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3868511)
Really? Its a graduated tax system. 450K was about 90K fed liability. And I live in a state with no income tax.

Your deductions were substantial if your fed liability was only 90k off of 450k.

Chub 01-08-2025 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by 172skychicken (Post 3868537)
Your deductions were substantial if your fed liability was only 90k off of 450k.

450k AGI, married filing jointly, standard deduction, equates to about $90k fed income taxes, and about $15k in FICA taxes.

172skychicken 01-08-2025 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Chub (Post 3868541)
450k AGI, married filing jointly, standard deduction, equates to about $90k fed income taxes, and about $15k in FICA taxes.

I was including the FICA taxes. Should've been more clear.

FangsF15 01-08-2025 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Chub (Post 3868541)
450k AGI, married filing jointly, standard deduction, equates to about $90k fed income taxes, and about $15k in FICA taxes.

Breaking out State taxes is fine, but in this context breaking down Federal “taxes” between FICA, SS, and Medicare is utterly irrelevant and a distraction.

It all goes in one check to the US Treasury...

Chub 01-08-2025 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3868576)
Breaking out State taxes is fine, but in this context breaking down Federal “taxes” between FICA, SS, and Medicare is utterly irrelevant and a distraction.

It all goes in one check to the US Treasury...

I agree I was just replying to the guy replying to Stan about the 90k for Fed income not being accurate.

Dynamiterabbit 01-08-2025 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by HotSnakes (Post 3868738)
Ohio Taxes Suck.(Proposed legislation to phase out State Taxes god willing it will pass )

Ohio has one of the lowest top marginal tax rates in the country (3.5%). Are there other taxes you’re talking about? (I’m not from Ohio, just curious)

Recliner 01-09-2025 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Dynamiterabbit (Post 3868765)
Ohio has one of the lowest top marginal tax rates in the country (3.5%). Are there other taxes you’re talking about? (I’m not from Ohio, just curious)

One might say FL, WY, NH, SD, NV, TN, and TX are a little lower :)

PineappleXpres 01-09-2025 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Recliner (Post 3868836)
One might say FL, WY, NH, SD, NV, TN, and TX are a little lower :)

Not in Property tax, Home owners insurance, car insurance, sales tax, toll fees/car registration, and health care insurance gaps. That’s mostly in reference to FL. Commuting costs thanks to delayed upgrade, missed premium, redundancies (beater car, crash pad, extra eating out), and more time missed at home for the actual commute will all result in a net loss over the 3.5% income tax. The spreadsheet doesn’t lie.

PineappleXpres 01-09-2025 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by bonvoyage (Post 3868622)
I love how you add military pay in the total for year 1/2 DAL FO

I do too. I want to know everyone’s side hustle and investment return income.

FangsF15 01-09-2025 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 3868844)
Not in Property tax, Home owners insurance, car insurance, sales tax, toll fees/car registration, and health care insurance gaps. That’s mostly in reference to FL. Commuting costs thanks to delayed upgrade, missed premium, redundancies (beater car, crash pad, extra eating out), and more time missed at home for the actual commute will all result in a net loss over the 3.5% income tax. The spreadsheet doesn’t lie.

My thoughts exactly. They get you one way or another.

mulcher 01-09-2025 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 3868844)
Not in Property tax, Home owners insurance, car insurance, sales tax, toll fees/car registration, and health care insurance gaps. That’s mostly in reference to FL. Commuting costs thanks to delayed upgrade, missed premium, redundancies (beater car, crash pad, extra eating out), and more time missed at home for the actual commute will all result in a net loss over the 3.5% income tax. The spreadsheet doesn’t lie.

TX falls into that also. Property taxes in TX are horrible.

CX500T 01-09-2025 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3868846)
My thoughts exactly. They get you one way or another.

And some states you think would be cheaper, aren't.

Move from VA to NJ.
My property tax, on my house went up. That's it. Everything else went down.

Income tax, effective rate lower (not by much, but 5.6% vs 5.85%)
Property tax on the house, about double as a percentage. ($6k on a house that I sold for $600k, NJ $20k on a $1.1M house)
Not paying $10,000 in taxes on vehicles I already paid tax on when I bought them. City of VA Beach was getting $5000 for my pickup, $2800 for my wife's Expedition, $1100 for my airport beater (25 year old pickup), $1500 for my camper, $300 for one motorcycle, $400 for another motorcyle.

I'm actually paying about $1145 a year less in taxes, in total here in NJ. But I have a much larger, much nicer house, on 9 acres vs my 1400sqft 3/2 brick ranch on 1/4 acre.

If I had gotten a comparable house, it would have been far cheaper.

And yeah, TX really gets you on property taxes. I've had more than a few friends/relative go there, buy something, then start freaking out because the ISD, MUD and other taxes go up as neighborhoods get built out.

Extenda 01-09-2025 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 3868861)
And some states you think would be cheaper, aren't.

Move from VA to NJ.
My property tax, on my house went up. That's it. Everything else went down.

Income tax, effective rate lower (not by much, but 5.6% vs 5.85%)
Property tax on the house, about double as a percentage. ($6k on a house that I sold for $600k, NJ $20k on a $1.1M house)
Not paying $10,000 in taxes on vehicles I already paid tax on when I bought them. City of VA Beach was getting $5000 for my pickup, $2800 for my wife's Expedition, $1100 for my airport beater (25 year old pickup), $1500 for my camper, $300 for one motorcycle, $400 for another motorcyle.

I'm actually paying about $1145 a year less in taxes, in total here in NJ. But I have a much larger, much nicer house, on 9 acres vs my 1400sqft 3/2 brick ranch on 1/4 acre.

If I had gotten a comparable house, it would have been far cheaper.

And yeah, TX really gets you on property taxes. I've had more than a few friends/relative go there, buy something, then start freaking out because the ISD, MUD and other taxes go up as neighborhoods get built out.

yeah people tend to point to state income tax as the be all end all. It gets complicated when you start trying to figure out your total tax burden. The state will get their pound of flesh,

however I can guarantee you that ones yearly difference will be entirely covered by a last minute 2 day captain GS which one will be able to do because they’re not a commuter and are living in a “high tax” domicile and can drive a couple hours to work.

SoFloFlyer 01-09-2025 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 3868844)
Not in Property tax, Home owners insurance, car insurance, sales tax, toll fees/car registration, and health care insurance gaps. That’s mostly in reference to FL. Commuting costs thanks to delayed upgrade, missed premium, redundancies (beater car, crash pad, extra eating out), and more time missed at home for the actual commute will all result in a net loss over the 3.5% income tax. The spreadsheet doesn’t lie.

Can’t speak to a resell, but I bought a new construction and insurance is about $1100/yr on a 1750 sq ft 3/2.5 home. Property taxes is about $3500/yr. As far as tolls, it’s negligible depending where you live. Maybe $50/yr for the average person? Car registration isn’t terrible. About $70 for 2 year expiration. Car insurance is heavily dependent where you live in the state. Not sure where FL stacks up against other states tho. I know TX was cheaper in this regard, but that’s about it for me.

I’ve lived in Texas and annual savings were underwhelming in certain categories. Even got priced out of buying a house due to property taxes being so high there.

goshawk 01-09-2025 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Dynamiterabbit (Post 3868765)
Ohio has one of the lowest top marginal tax rates in the country (3.5%). Are there other taxes you’re talking about? (I’m not from Ohio, just curious)

A lot of places in Ohio have a local tax ~2.5%. I paid more in taxes in Ohio than I did in Mass (very close).

CX500T 01-09-2025 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3868878)
yeah people tend to point to state income tax as the be all end all. It gets complicated when you start trying to figure out your total tax burden. The state will get their pound of flesh,

however I can guarantee you that ones yearly difference will be entirely covered by a last minute 2 day captain GS which one will be able to do because they’re not a commuter and are living in a “high tax” domicile and can drive a couple hours to work.

Oh, like the 6 day RES GS to Africa? That paid 31:30 over guarantee, then I used the banked PB days to drop/get paid for another 45ish hours? Yeah, that $26k paid my property tax for the year and then some.

checkgear 01-09-2025 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3868943)
Can’t speak to a resell, but I bought a new construction and insurance is about $1100/yr on a 1750 sq ft 3/2.5 home. Property taxes is about $3500/yr. As far as tolls, it’s negligible depending where you live. Maybe $50/yr for the average person? Car registration isn’t terrible. About $70 for 2 year expiration. Car insurance is heavily dependent where you live in the state. Not sure where FL stacks up against other states tho. I know TX was cheaper in this regard, but that’s about it for me.

I’ve lived in Texas and annual savings were underwhelming in certain categories. Even got priced out of buying a house due to property taxes being so high there.

Are you northern FL? That house insurance is cheap cheap!

SoFloFlyer 01-09-2025 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by checkgear (Post 3869082)
Are you northern FL? That house insurance is cheap cheap!

It’s in the Central Florida area, I was shocked too! Heard some nightmare stories regarding insurance. I’m definitely lucky

e6bpilot 01-09-2025 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by checkgear (Post 3869082)
Are you northern FL? That house insurance is cheap cheap!

I lived in FL for about 25 years and my family just sold their last two houses there. Depending on where you live, the insurance can range from not too bad to insanely expensive. Wind and storm insurance has made living on the coast pretty rough. If you don't need a separate wind and storm policy or can self insure, it's not bad.
I loved living there and embrace being a true Florida man, but it's lost almost everything that made it a great place to live outside of a few areas in the panhandle and big bend.
As far as taxes go, though, I don't think you can beat living there. No income tax, sales tax is comparable to most other areas, and property tax is within the norm. You kind of get what you pay for though, especially in central, west, and south Florida where it has become so overcrowded it's insane and infrastructure, schools, and services just haven't grown to meet the demand.

checkgear 01-09-2025 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3869100)
It’s in the Central Florida area, I was shocked too! Heard some nightmare stories regarding insurance. I’m definitely lucky

I’m close to MCO, property tax is $8.8k and insurance is $3.5k.

I’m a little jealous haha…


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