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Old 09-27-2025 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
The one thing I don't understand from those that are against. You keep saying the 5 years extra was a good thing for those working at the time. Why is an extra 2 years not the same for you?

And if it is because you are fully funded and want that seniority I understand. But the whole "you knew the rules when you signed up, and now you are trying to change them", is on thin ice. When I signed up, most spent 10 years flying checks, at a regional, or some other crappy job. Most got hired at a legacy at around 30-35 "knowing" they would retire at 60, with a fat check in the mail every month. All that changed. Nobody asked if I was ok with that. So now that nobody that makes the decision for you is asking your opinion, you keep coming at the people that have a different opinion from you, that also have no say in this. I will retire when I age/medical out, I don't donate to any of the LG(reedy)PF, because I don't agree with their rhetoric. But if I get an extra 2 years, I hope I can use them. Things change. Don't blame the wrong people for that.
Because we didn’t want the extra 5 then and don’t want an extra 2 now.
Old 09-27-2025 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
The one thing I don't understand from those that are against. You keep saying the 5 years extra was a good thing for those working at the time. Why is an extra 2 years not the same for you?

And if it is because you are fully funded and want that seniority I understand. But the whole "you knew the rules when you signed up, and now you are trying to change them", is on thin ice. When I signed up, most spent 10 years flying checks, at a regional, or some other crappy job. Most got hired at a legacy at around 30-35 "knowing" they would retire at 60, with a fat check in the mail every month. All that changed. Nobody asked if I was ok with that. So now that nobody that makes the decision for you is asking your opinion, you keep coming at the people that have a different opinion from you, that also have no say in this. I will retire when I age/medical out, I don't donate to any of the LG(reedy)PF, because I don't agree with their rhetoric. But if I get an extra 2 years, I hope I can use them. Things change. Don't blame the wrong people for that.
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Because we didn’t want the extra 5 then and don’t want an extra 2 now.
like I said
Old 09-27-2025 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by billtaters
You have missed the point entirely about ALPA PAC. The PAC donates roughly 50/50 between Dems and Republicans. That means that 100% of us that actually donate would not vote for 50% of the recipients of our PAC money. But the point of our donations is not to elect these individuals. Our PAC money has close to zero impact on that. The point instead is to get the legislators in DC on our union's side for issues that affect our profession. If you read Flying the Line, you'll get a good picture as to how critical this voice in the political sphere is to us.
It’s pretty heavily partisan when it comes to donations to pols.

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/air-line-pilots-assn/C00035451/summary/2024


On the other end of the spectrum is SWAPA PAC:


https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/southwest-airlines-pilots-assn/C00360669/summary/2024

I could understand why someone wouldn’t want to give to one vs the other.
Old 09-27-2025 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
like I said
I didn’t get hired until 37.
Old 09-27-2025 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
It’s pretty heavily partisan when it comes to donations to pols.
Look again. It used to be, but it hasn't been for the last six years unless you mean pilot partisan.
Old 09-27-2025 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
Look again. It used to be, but it hasn't been for the last six years unless you mean pilot partisan.
I mean 60/40 is partisan. That’s 2024. To put it another way, that is 50% more donations to one party over another.

But yes, it was significantly more highly skewed in previous years.
Old 09-27-2025 | 01:33 PM
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LEPF sent out the latest update.
I’m sure FSDO will post it soon.
Old 09-27-2025 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
I mean 60/40 is partisan. That’s 2024. To put it another way, that is 50% more donations to one party over another.

But yes, it was significantly more highly skewed in previous years.
I think it's 60/40 because one party is in control. You keep donating to the party out of control so they don't hold a grudge later but skew the money towards the deciders.
Old 09-27-2025 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
I mean 60/40 is partisan.
By no political definition known to man especially when it is a trade union PAC. #PilotPartisan
Old 09-27-2025 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 180ToAJ
LEPF sent out the latest update.
I’m sure FSDO will post it soon.
Have you ever wanted to see someone take the exact wrong interpretation from every ambiguity? Read the EPAS Facebook update. The game is over at icao, and they are claiming progress. Completely ignorant of the process.
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