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Old 08-23-2025 | 02:43 PM
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Functional and Blood-Based Biomarkers of Brain Aging in Senior Airline Pilots Approaching Mandatory Retirement: A Case-Control Comparison With Age-Matched Office Workers | Cureus
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Old 08-23-2025 | 02:50 PM
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Interesting work; it does seem to support potentially raising the age to 65.
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
Is it 66 year olds with 64 year olds? 60? Below 60?

This starts to get ridiculous but if you always pair older with younger then why do the standards have to increase? Can we have the lower standard if we agree to retire at 65???
The proposal stated:

a) support the extension of the upper age limit for pilots engaged in multi-pilot international
commercial air transport (CAT) to 67 years, provided another pilot is under age 65;


That part makes sense, and is actually good for younger pilots since it allows older, senior pilots who want to remain FO/IRO to do so, potentially freeing upgrade slots.

Right now an older, senior FO can have bidding issues, since many or most of the best trips go to senior CA's , who are also old. A 60+ can't bid those (unless somebody's CBA has a provision where they get paid to not fly in that case).

So old, senior FO's currently have an incentive to upgrade since they can't even fly senior trips as FO/IRO. The IATA proposal would narrow that window from five down to two years.
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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
https://www.icao.int/sites/default/f.../wp_349_en.pdf

Link works. 42nd ICAO Conference starts Sept 2025.

IATA is a major player in ICAO.
IATA is not even "in" ICAO. ICAO is basically the United Nations for aviation. It sets expectations and "best practices" for the most part.

Countries are members of ICAO, not other organizations.
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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
Functional and Blood-Based Biomarkers of Brain Aging in Senior Airline Pilots Approaching Mandatory Retirement: A Case-Control Comparison With Age-Matched Office Workers | Cureus
https://www.cureus.com/articles/4051...office-workers
With “severe pilot shortage” in its conclusion, this is one joke of a study. They didn’t even look at anyone over 65 years old. How desperate!
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Originally Posted by hercretired
IATA is not even "in" ICAO. ICAO is basically the United Nations for aviation. It sets expectations and "best practices" for the most part.

Countries are members of ICAO, not other organizations.
Nonetheless, he was correct in that IATA has significant influence on ICAO.

IATA represents the airlines, and as always, money talks. UN in general is inherently subject to whims of politics, influence, corruption, etc. That is to say they are not standing by any resolved, principled positions in the face of all adversity.
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Originally Posted by Clearedtocross
With “severe pilot shortage” in its conclusion, this is one joke of a study.
In the foreign context, there's always a "severe shortage" of pilots since they...

1) Don't have any GA or military pilot pools to speak of.
2) Usually don't pay well enough to attract a lot of US pilots (the largest pool).
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
In the foreign context, there's always a "severe shortage" of pilots since they...

1) Don't have any GA or military pilot pools to speak of.
2) Usually don't pay well enough to attract a lot of US pilots (the largest pool).
None of that is relevant to this “study”.
The fact that they mention “severe pilot shortage” in the conclusion ensures it’s a farce. No neuroscientist conducting a legitimate study would do that. In addition, they didn’t study anyone over 64 and compared them to “office workers” with no baseline for either group. This is hilarious! Sample size was a whopping 31 people (Lepfers?).

And to your point above, if they are having trouble finding pilots to hire maybe they could start by paying them better.

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Old 08-23-2025 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dmeg13021
it does seem to support potentially raising the age to 65.
Neurodegeneration includes but isn’t limited to memory loss and cognitive decline. I guess dmeg thinks he is still in 2006.

Exhibit A I think.
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
Neurodegeneration includes but isn’t limited too memory loss and cognitive decline. I guess dmeg thinks he is still in 2006.

Exhibit A I think.
Yes, and why is the FAA cog test graded on a curve for age. Hint: older pilots as a group do worse.
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