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Old 11-11-2025 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by vaxedtothemax
“There’s not enough housing!!”

” Let’s allow unfettered immigration, both illegal and legal… that’ll help!”


How are so many so blatantly retarded in their thinking?
who in this thread has expressed these opinions, or are you just railing against made up things?
Old 11-11-2025 | 03:15 PM
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[mod input] please don’t discuss potentially partisan policy on APC. The fact immigration happens is one thing, but advocacy of contentious policy “solutions” is another. Thank you.
Old 11-11-2025 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido

But we have, wink-wink, allowed them in great number. Since like forever. That’s the way the world goes round. Until so recently.

So I know a fella owns a trucking operation. Business been running strong lately. Problem now is dispatching drivers WITH lawful employment status to states, cities, busy ports ICE is rumored to target or offer informants bounty cash. Fearing of course they’ll be falsely exiled. Can’t say as I blame them much. Salvadoran jail looks muy unpleasant imho.

Bad for bidness, bad for transportation.

honest question… have you seen recent accidents involving tractor trailers and highways? I am guessing where one gets their news would dictate if recent major accidents have been talked about.

We may have to disagree… I don’t want someone who can’t read English, speak English, or follow our traffic laws, behind the wheel of a tractor trailer on the same highways as my family members. We have enough awful drivers, why add to it. If my Uber rides over the last couple years are any indication, I’ll pass on barely legal immigrant drivers in tractor trailers.

There is a reason the car insurance rates of Springfield OH has skyrocketed. ( and it’s not missing cats and dogs… and geese) I actually met a pilot from Springfield, his exact words were that his rates skyrocketed as soon as the 30,000 Haitians moved in due to all the fender benders.
Old 11-11-2025 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by vaxedtothemax
honest question… have you seen recent accidents involving tractor trailers and highways? I am guessing where one gets their news would dictate if recent major accidents have been talked about.

We may have to disagree… I don’t want someone who can’t read English, speak English, or follow our traffic laws, behind the wheel of a tractor trailer on the same highways as my family members. We have enough awful drivers, why add to it. If my Uber rides over the last couple years are any indication, I’ll pass on barely legal immigrant drivers in tractor trailers.

There is a reason the car insurance rates of Springfield OH has skyrocketed. ( and it’s not missing cats and dogs… and geese) I actually met a pilot from Springfield, his exact words were that his rates skyrocketed as soon as the 30,000 Haitians moved in due to all the fender benders.
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Old 11-11-2025 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
who in this thread has expressed these opinions, or are you just railing against made up things?
well it is an affordability thread after all…

It’s correlation between housing scarcity being so high and the thought process of those who don’t see a problem with just allowing everyone to walk across the border. Supply and demand always works. In a good way or bad.

This isn’t very difficult math. A glut of low income individuals vying for the lower end housing, it all trickles upward and raises the prices on all housing.

I was just discussing this with my legal immigrant friend who owns a rental. He can’t charge as much this year because of the immigration crackdown currently happening. ( and he is a DT supporter). So bottom line, less immigrants (illegal especially), less demand for housing, prices come down. I thought that’s what every “affordable housing” advocate wanted?

Next we can discuss how lower gas prices will affect the price of goods and services. Always has, always will.
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Originally Posted by vaxedtothemax
Thats just a correlation between housing scarcity being so high and the thought process of those who don’t see a problem with just allowing everyone to walk across the border. Supply and demand always works. In a good way or bad.

This isn’t very difficult math. A glut of low income individuals vying for the lower end housing, it all trickles upward and raises the prices on all housing.

I was just discussing this with my legal immigrant friend who owns a rental. He can’t charge as much this year because of the immigration crackdown currently happening. ( and he is a DT supporter). So bottom line, less immigrants (illegal especially), less demand for housing, prices come down. I thought that’s what every “affordable housing” advocate wanted?
so, it’s just some “thought process” nobody expressed.
Old 11-11-2025 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
so, it’s just some “thought process” nobody expressed.
I didn’t read through much past the page prior. Yes a random affordability thought.. Of course I knew the open border types here would raise objection.

If housing and the reason demand is so high, doesn’t relate to the topic of affordability that would be news to me. We could also discuss if adding a States worth of people raises costs on everything else, I’m sure that would be a fun conversation also.
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Originally Posted by vaxedtothemax
I didn’t read through much past the page prior. Yes a random affordability thought.. Of course I knew the open border types here would raise objection.

If housing doesn’t relate to the topic of affordability that would be news to me. We could also discuss if adding a States worth of people raises costs on everything else, I’m sure that would be a fun conversation also.
who are the “open border types?”

and who said “housing doesn’t relate to the topic of affordability?”
Old 11-12-2025 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
[mod input] please don’t discuss potentially partisan policy on APC. The fact immigration happens is one thing, but advocacy of contentious policy “solutions” is another. Thank you.
50 years from now, well after you snots have cleared, America will fill in the ICAO FIR tip to tip. Less manifest destiny than a James Michener novel. One long free mess. Make progress there, affordable house will follow.

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Old 11-14-2025 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
who are the “open border types?”
It's kind of in the words. Open borders types, such as those who prefer open borders.
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