I love that guys here who are making $300k/yr and refuse to do a single duty outside of their defined job or help the company in any way at all are saying that controllers and government employees are doing just fine while working without receiving a paycheck, and if they haven't planned for it then it's on them. I'd love to know how many guys at the airlines would be showing up for work if they knew they weren't getting a paycheck for a few weeks. The current administration has also threatened to not give back pay, so yeah, I'm sure anyone working for the government is feeling just peachy right now and should just get on with their work.

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you mean like the guys at Mesa or Commair in the 90's and early 2000's respectively?

Look it's cool if you came right from the military.........but might want to give your colleagues who starved through the lost decade a little more respect before you start lecturing them on their perceived lacktherof for others. We didn't just trip out of bed and fall into 300K.

A lot of us ex mil guys didn't just trip out of bed and fall into 300k.

WorkIng oil field jobs while CFIing on the side. Flying King Airs in crap places for $300 a day (Avenge circa 2014)

I didn't imply you that you did.

I often hear in both oral and electronic arguments "You make a lot of money, ________", "You get paid 300K a year, _____" as our current industry rates of compensation are a catalyst to encourage or inspire a perceived a higher needed level of professionalism. Perhaps not in aeronautical decision making, airmanship, or CRM but rather things like uniform appearance, tipping the van drivers at least $5 each time, or only having the "high and tight"........

We should as professionals always strive to improve, it's just that we haven't always been paid well............does that mean we shouldn't have been professionals when we were making $19.50 per hour...we still had (in my case at least 53) peoples lives at stake?

The arguments expressed above almost always come from a mouth that hasn't tasted that level of poverty, their aeronautical background notwithstanding. My hunch is that these things are intrinsically inter related.

This is precious. No one in the government sector cared when I got furloughed and went 9 months without a paycheck. Oh and when I came back I didn’t get backpay. Cry me a river.

Unless you’re a contractor. Or unless POTUS and the speaker of the house gets their way and they deny back pay. But hey besides that’s it’s all good right?

“Why don’t the poors simply make more money???”

Did you get an unemployment check? I'm guessing you did. So someone in the government worked to ensure you got that check.

Also, were you required to work at your old job when you were furloughed? I'm guessing you weren't. You had the freedom to go out and earn money however you could. Completely, utterly different situation from the controllers who help make our jobs even possible to do.

right now it all sits on the lap of the senate minority leader…

Yeah, that unemployment check is equal to all the back pay they will receive. I can’t roll my eyes back any further.

Likewise, but not remotely for the same reason…. Good grief.