LEPF DFR Lawsuit
Yesterday | 02:00 PM
#211
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2023
Posts: 536
Likes: 140
The FAA does have a cognitive test used primarily for head injury, stroke, neurological, and HIMS recoveries. It takes a full day(sometimes broken up into two) to complete and is administered by an FAA approved Psychologist or Psychiatrist. We’d probably lose more pilots (than we would gain by raising the age) if it were administered to the entire group.
Yesterday | 03:42 PM
#212
On Reserve
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 190
Likes: 9
I have a family member in her 70’s who just had an annual medical. We have been concerned about her memory since she will tell you the same story 3x in one night, remind you numerous times of directions throughout the drive to places you’ve taken her dozens of times, and gets flustered very easily.
She passed her cog test with flying colors. She could be in a cockpit tomorrow if it wasn’t for this silly age restriction.
She passed her cog test with flying colors. She could be in a cockpit tomorrow if it wasn’t for this silly age restriction.
Sorry about your Meemaw, but she is not a definitive representative of her age group.
Yesterday | 03:57 PM
#213
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 337
Likes: 44
From: DL320A
I have a neighbor, 80s, former United DC-10 Captain who does pro bono accounting work for several local small businesses and completed his 43rd consecutive NYT Sunday crossword puzzle this week. In pen. No one has concerns about his cognitive ability.
Sorry about your Meemaw, but she is not a definitive representative of her age group.
Sorry about your Meemaw, but she is not a definitive representative of her age group.
Yesterday | 04:44 PM
#214
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 934
Likes: 122
I have a neighbor, 80s, former United DC-10 Captain who does pro bono accounting work for several local small businesses and completed his 43rd consecutive NYT Sunday crossword puzzle this week. In pen. No one has concerns about his cognitive ability.
Sorry about your Meemaw, but she is not a definitive representative of her age group.
Sorry about your Meemaw, but she is not a definitive representative of her age group.
so 1) status quo, 2) test individually, or 3) do some research to set a baseline at some group percentage of cognitive decline. I personally don't like 2, so I'm all for 1 until 3. This ain't a crossword.
Yesterday | 05:25 PM
#215
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 613
Likes: 142
I have a neighbor, 80s, former United DC-10 Captain who does pro bono accounting work for several local small businesses and completed his 43rd consecutive NYT Sunday crossword puzzle this week. In pen. No one has concerns about his cognitive ability.
Sorry about your Meemaw, but she is not a definitive representative of her age group.
Sorry about your Meemaw, but she is not a definitive representative of her age group.
You are, unsurprisingly, missing the point. She is slipping mentally. There is no doubt in anyone’s mind. She knows it, too. However, she was feeling well on the day she had that test done.
Someone else just made the point of how performance on a test could go both ways. You could have someone incorrectly proctor the exam, you didn’t sleep well, you are distracted by life stresses, etc. and now you wait for the FAA to get your medical back.
How much would this costs in terms of development and implementation? How much would this cost us in terms additional unpaid days to get tested?
Raising the age is a solution in search of a problem.
I’m glad your buddy has a hobby.
Today | 12:20 PM
#217
On Reserve
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 190
Likes: 9
I’m sure he can bench 225 for reps and run a 6 min mile. That’s irrelevant. We all know some who are sharp and those who are slipping at old age.
You are, unsurprisingly, missing the point. She is slipping mentally. There is no doubt in anyone’s mind. She knows it, too. However, she was feeling well on the day she had that test done.
You are, unsurprisingly, missing the point. She is slipping mentally. There is no doubt in anyone’s mind. She knows it, too. However, she was feeling well on the day she had that test done.
The truth is that some pilots could do this job perfectly well into their 70s and 80s. Just as some shouldn't be doing it in their 40s or 50s. Nobody has come up with a valid way of measuring that yet.
Today | 12:27 PM
#218
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 613
Likes: 142
Oh, I get your point. It's known as faulty generalization. You were suggesting that, because Meemaw has cognitive decline, all older people have cognitive decline. It's a weak argument.
The truth is that some pilots could do this job perfectly well into their 70s and 80s. Just as some shouldn't be doing it in their 40s or 50s. Nobody has come up with a valid way of measuring that yet.
The truth is that some pilots could do this job perfectly well into their 70s and 80s. Just as some shouldn't be doing it in their 40s or 50s. Nobody has come up with a valid way of measuring that yet.
It’s funny that you assume somebody in their 70’s must be my “meemaw”.
However, saying that people over the age of 60 having decline is a “faulty generalization” is inaccurate.
Some just move quicker than others. Otherwise we would have chess champions that old. Imagine all the experience they have.
As you age, physical strength and mental functions decline along with increase chances of illness across the board.
That’s true regardless of how many people you know that do the NYC crossword in pen.
Today | 01:20 PM
#219
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 1,772
Likes: 130
Oh, I get your point. It's known as faulty generalization. You were suggesting that, because Meemaw has cognitive decline, all older people have cognitive decline. It's a weak argument.
The truth is that some pilots could do this job perfectly well into their 70s and 80s. Just as some shouldn't be doing it in their 40s or 50s. Nobody has come up with a valid way of measuring that yet.
The truth is that some pilots could do this job perfectly well into their 70s and 80s. Just as some shouldn't be doing it in their 40s or 50s. Nobody has come up with a valid way of measuring that yet.
Today | 02:49 PM
#220
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,166
Likes: 62
From: 737 CA
I have a neighbor, 80s, former United DC-10 Captain who does pro bono accounting work for several local small businesses and completed his 43rd consecutive NYT Sunday crossword puzzle this week. In pen. No one has concerns about his cognitive ability.
Sorry about your Meemaw, but she is not a definitive representative of her age group.
Sorry about your Meemaw, but she is not a definitive representative of her age group.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
