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Originally Posted by 5StripeCaptain
(Post 4024944)
These articles read like another attempt at getting some clicks and it managed to get some traction this time so we're talking about it again. When Spirit goes, it'll be like Silver. One day we'll walk past their counter/gate, and they just wont be there. Damn shame for their people but hopefully everyone has their apps out and logbooks updated.
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Originally Posted by Traffic Alert
(Post 4024915)
this is exactly what’s going to happen. F9 NK JB merger and the govt will throw a little operating cash in the deal. They will look good for saving the low cost market for consumers as none of them will survive on their own.
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Allegiant is already merging with Sun Country.
Honestly not sure why Avelo would be going to some DC shindig. |
Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
(Post 4024771)
I don't see anything about Jetblue going, only Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, and Avelo.
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Originally Posted by Ebola
(Post 4025183)
Now is the time to brainstorm a new name for the combined carrier. Front Spunk or Giant Favela ? Giant Blue Jelo ? So many options.
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Originally Posted by PineappleXpres
(Post 4024998)
It ain’t over until it’s over
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
(Post 4025088)
Honestly not sure why Avelo would be going to some DC shindig.
Just looking for another hand out like the rest of the lot. |
Originally Posted by OverUnderDone
(Post 4025202)
Avelo is/was doing the ICE deportation flights. They're already in bed with the current administration.
Just looking for another hand out like the rest of the lot. |
Originally Posted by OverUnderDone
(Post 4025202)
Avelo is/was doing the ICE deportation flights. They're already in bed with the current administration.
Just looking for another hand out like the rest of the lot. |
Isn’t Air Wisconsin back doing this?
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Originally Posted by OverUnderDone
(Post 4025202)
Avelo is/was doing the ICE deportation flights. They're already in bed with the current administration.
Just looking for another hand out like the rest of the lot. ICE Contracts are not chosen, or delegated by the administration. ICE, like DOD, issues a “Request for Bid” for services. Ice does not require the airline management to stand on a soap box and swear an oath of allegiance to an administration. ICE, like any consumer is interested in the cheapest price. The air carrier reviews the requirements. The details, like in the past specifies destination. In my past experience, the destination has been the origin country where the individuals came from. Carriers, based on ICE requirements, and the airlines’ specific culture, have the option to, or not to bid. |
Originally Posted by hoover
(Post 4025311)
doing ICE deportation is not in bed with the administration. Its been happening forever regardless of who was in the white house. Jeez
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Trump told CNBC's "Squawk Box": "I don't mind mergers. I think I'd love somebody to buy Spirit, as an example. You know, Spirit's in trouble. ... Maybe the federal government should help that one out."
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Originally Posted by N152SY
(Post 4025768)
every shop is doing deportation flights. Yes,even beloved Delta. Akima is one of the big contractors that does them,they escort illegals on commercial flights daily,you would never know because there is no fanfare or special booking codes alerted to the airlines about these transports
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Originally Posted by LTJ9
(Post 4025869)
Trump told CNBC's "Squawk Box": "I don't mind mergers. I think I'd love somebody to buy Spirit, as an example. You know, Spirit's in trouble. ... Maybe the federal government should help that one out."
So who are the contenders now that he ruled out United and American…Delta, SWA and ALK? |
Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
(Post 4025915)
then he goes on to talk about how mergers made the space industry lazy…
So who are the contenders now that he ruled out United and American…Delta, SWA and ALK? Anyone that wants to buy Spirit will be allowed to. |
Originally Posted by LTJ9
(Post 4025918)
He somewhat ruled out AA/United merging with each other and that’s where the comparison came to mergers killing competition in other industries.
Anyone that wants to buy Spirit will be allowed to. |
Originally Posted by LTJ9
(Post 4025918)
He somewhat ruled out AA/United merging with each other and that’s where the comparison came to mergers killing competition in other industries.
Anyone that wants to buy Spirit will be allowed to. |
Originally Posted by Chimpy
(Post 4025934)
maybe JetBlue should….
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
(Post 4026344)
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Well if spirit is too big to fail then AA is definitely too big. We can stop that whole debate about their finances and whether they go under.
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Love to know the structure of this potential deal and what creditors get priority when it inevitably doesn’t work
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Happy for Spirit bros, hopefully it works long term and isn't just delaying the inevitable. However, this creates a pretty bad precedent and moral hazard. Basically encourages corporations to take excessive risk and not worry about failing because Uncle Sam (taxpayers) will be there to save you. I thought we were against corporate welfare?
Stock holders should be wiped out or something as a consequence of accepting a "bail out" to deter this type of thing in the future. Covid was a unique worldwide event, so I don't think parallels to that can be drawn. |
Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 4026377)
Happy for Spirit bros, hopefully it works long term and isn't just delaying the inevitable. However, this creates a pretty bad precedent and moral hazard. Basically encourages corporations to take excessive risk and not worry about failing because Uncle Sam (taxpayers) will be there to save you. I thought we were against corporate welfare?
Stock holders should be wiped out or something as a consequence of accepting a "bail out" to deter this type of thing in the future. Covid was a unique worldwide event, so I don't think parallels to that can be drawn. |
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