Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Major (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/)
-   -   Doctor's Notes for Sick Use (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/152971-doctors-notes-sick-use.html)

fcoolaiddrinker 05-09-2026 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 4033776)
This isn’t legal in every state.

They can always ask but you don’t have to provide for sick. Part of the problem can become when pilots just start sending doc notes for the flu. Over time practice has the potential to become statue quo.
There is a difference legally when coming back from a medical leave of absence. Part of the reason that language is in separate sec of an agreement.

I was asked at one point for a doc note from the chief pilot to provide a doc note for a sick call. I responded to the email and said I never went to the doc. He responded back with ok thanks. I made sure I got paid for it then sent the correspondence to the union for archival.
Next time the plan if it happens will be my wife didn’t go to the doc to solidify that part of sick language.

at6d 05-09-2026 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 4033798)
He’s an assistant??? Since when do ACPs send out base newsletters?

JL seems to be dialed in to sick bank stuff according to more than one FO i recently flew with. Want to get some trading cards? Be ready to have your board checked and talked to about sick time LOL. Bait and switch!

Im telling you the trading cards are super popular with this generation of FOs—be careful getting lured into the office!

Based on what I’ve heard Im thinking the base newsletter is a team job—not solely the chief.


FangsF15 05-09-2026 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Hellafo (Post 4033767)
So D is requiring a note for every sick call?

No. Sick use over 120 hours in prior 12 rolling months requires a note on a subsequent sick call (until you are less than 120 hours of ‘lookback’)

Separately, the company may inquire under a “good faith basis” and may require a note, but there are exemptions and they have to tell you the reason for the inqiry. Patterns or amount of sick are not valid reasons for GFB. The company pays for all medical bills if they GFB you.

It’s much more of a annoyance than anything.

hoover 05-09-2026 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 4033811)
JL seems to be dialed in to sick bank stuff according to more than one FO i recently flew with. Want to get some trading cards? Be ready to have your board checked and talked to about sick time LOL. Bait and switch!

Im telling you the trading cards are super popular with this generation of FOs—be careful getting lured into the office!

Based on what I’ve heard Im thinking the base newsletter is a team job—not solely the chief.

I know in training it was mentioned more than once sick calls were going up.
It was countered with well when you displace 300 pilots etc
The guy giving the talk couldn't make that leap

dera 05-09-2026 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 4033776)
This isn’t legal in every state.

Theres an arbitrator that upheld a termination with this defense so I would proceed with caution.

rickair7777 05-09-2026 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 4033776)
This isn’t legal in every state.

If it's in the CBA it's a little complicated. RLA will preempt state law on many topics.

dera 05-09-2026 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4033920)
If it's in the CBA it's a little complicated. RLA will preempt state law on many topics.

The way it went with the case Im familiar with, company asked for a sick note after what they considered excessive use (4 times in a rolling 12 month period). The guy said in his state thats not a legal request, so they fired him for sick abuse.
Union grieved it, grievance obviously denied. Went to arbitration and arbitrator said that under RLA unless you can prove the company is wrong, their position is always correct, and with no sick notes he had nothing to counter. Arbitrator held the termination.

dsevo 05-09-2026 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 4033929)
The way it went with the case Im familiar with, company asked for a sick note after what they considered excessive use (4 times in a rolling 12 month period). The guy said in his state thats not a legal request, so they fired him for sick abuse.
Union grieved it, grievance obviously denied. Went to arbitration and arbitrator said that under RLA unless you can prove the company is wrong, their position is always correct, and with no sick notes he had nothing to counter. Arbitrator held the termination.

Someone was fired for 4 sick calls in a year?!? Hahaha, let’s just say that half of AA would be fired…

i suspect there’s way more to this story.

biigD 05-09-2026 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 4033929)
The way it went with the case Im familiar with, company asked for a sick note after what they considered excessive use (4 times in a rolling 12 month period). The guy said in his state thats not a legal request, so they fired him for sick abuse.
Union grieved it, grievance obviously denied. Went to arbitration and arbitrator said that under RLA unless you can prove the company is wrong, their position is always correct, and with no sick notes he had nothing to counter. Arbitrator held the termination.

WTF airline is this??? I would have been fired a looooong time ago. These guys apparently have never had kids.

rickair7777 05-09-2026 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by dsevo (Post 4033930)
Someone was fired for 4 sick calls in a year?!? Hahaha, let’s just say that half of AA would be fired…

i suspect there’s way more to this story.

Some regionals, back in the day. I wouldn't want to be calling out much more than that on probation.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:55 PM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands