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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 4033776)
This isn’t legal in every state.
There is a difference legally when coming back from a medical leave of absence. Part of the reason that language is in separate sec of an agreement. I was asked at one point for a doc note from the chief pilot to provide a doc note for a sick call. I responded to the email and said I never went to the doc. He responded back with ok thanks. I made sure I got paid for it then sent the correspondence to the union for archival. Next time the plan if it happens will be my wife didn’t go to the doc to solidify that part of sick language. |
Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
(Post 4033798)
He’s an assistant??? Since when do ACPs send out base newsletters?
Im telling you the trading cards are super popular with this generation of FOs—be careful getting lured into the office! Based on what I’ve heard Im thinking the base newsletter is a team job—not solely the chief. |
Originally Posted by Hellafo
(Post 4033767)
So D is requiring a note for every sick call?
Separately, the company may inquire under a “good faith basis” and may require a note, but there are exemptions and they have to tell you the reason for the inqiry. Patterns or amount of sick are not valid reasons for GFB. The company pays for all medical bills if they GFB you. It’s much more of a annoyance than anything. |
Originally Posted by at6d
(Post 4033811)
JL seems to be dialed in to sick bank stuff according to more than one FO i recently flew with. Want to get some trading cards? Be ready to have your board checked and talked to about sick time LOL. Bait and switch!
Im telling you the trading cards are super popular with this generation of FOs—be careful getting lured into the office! Based on what I’ve heard Im thinking the base newsletter is a team job—not solely the chief. It was countered with well when you displace 300 pilots etc The guy giving the talk couldn't make that leap |
Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 4033776)
This isn’t legal in every state.
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 4033776)
This isn’t legal in every state.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4033920)
If it's in the CBA it's a little complicated. RLA will preempt state law on many topics.
Union grieved it, grievance obviously denied. Went to arbitration and arbitrator said that under RLA unless you can prove the company is wrong, their position is always correct, and with no sick notes he had nothing to counter. Arbitrator held the termination. |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 4033929)
The way it went with the case Im familiar with, company asked for a sick note after what they considered excessive use (4 times in a rolling 12 month period). The guy said in his state thats not a legal request, so they fired him for sick abuse.
Union grieved it, grievance obviously denied. Went to arbitration and arbitrator said that under RLA unless you can prove the company is wrong, their position is always correct, and with no sick notes he had nothing to counter. Arbitrator held the termination. i suspect there’s way more to this story. |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 4033929)
The way it went with the case Im familiar with, company asked for a sick note after what they considered excessive use (4 times in a rolling 12 month period). The guy said in his state thats not a legal request, so they fired him for sick abuse.
Union grieved it, grievance obviously denied. Went to arbitration and arbitrator said that under RLA unless you can prove the company is wrong, their position is always correct, and with no sick notes he had nothing to counter. Arbitrator held the termination. |
Originally Posted by dsevo
(Post 4033930)
Someone was fired for 4 sick calls in a year?!? Hahaha, let’s just say that half of AA would be fired…
i suspect there’s way more to this story. |
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