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Old 08-15-2007, 01:39 PM
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Sully, does the 49% of block hours still apply, or will this result in more block hours being flown at DCI than mainline?

Thank you for the good information and correcting my error on the 737-700 seating.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
does the 49% of block hours still apply, or will this result in more block hours being flown at DCI than mainline?

Thank you for the good information and correcting my error on the 737-700 seating.


I don't think there are block hour limitations any more.

To clarify on the scope with regards to 70 and 76 seaters......the company was allowed to outsource 15 76 seaters in 07 and 15 in 08. Those numbers can be increased in each year by three RJs for each mainline airplane you add. With the 10 757s coming in 07, that gives them 30 more RJ76s for a total of 45.

The combined total of 70 and 76 seat RJs is limited to 200, with no conditions to add more (until of course Lee Moak and his band give away even more scope).
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I apologize for my ignorance, but understand I am completely new to commercial aviation coming from a military background... but

What is scope? What does it mean and how does it affect a companies ops?

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I apologize for my ignorance, but understand I am completely new to commercial aviation coming from a military background... but

What is scope? What does it mean and how does it affect a companies ops?
scope is the section of a working agreement that defines the work you are contractually entitled too........the scope of the work you will perform.

In the case of pilots it usually defines which airplanes will be flown by that airlines pilots, and which airplanes can be outsourced. It does get much more complicated than that. For example, most major airlines pilots are entitled to the widebody flying at their airline, yet thier airline can also place its passengers on a code share partner flying a widebody.
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:11 PM
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In reference to the AE. It is my understanding that if there are positions posted, then they obligated to fill them. Currently there are about 30 people that have bid the 7ER in NYC. For this reason there will not be an issue with over staffing the fleet, but when they post openings, these numbers are the min that they can award not the max.
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yeah, but you guys have to wear hats.... that sucks.
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:02 PM
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Sully,

The retirement numbers you list seem a bit high for age 60. Do you have a source?
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
In reference to the AE. It is my understanding that if there are positions posted, then they obligated to fill them. Currently there are about 30 people that have bid the 7ER in NYC. For this reason there will not be an issue with over staffing the fleet, but when they post openings, these numbers are the min that they can award not the max.
actually that's not true. Depending on training availability (which the company controls) all posted vacancies may or may not be awarded. I have seen many bids in the past where some categories had less awards than the posted number of vacancies.
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
In reference to the AE. It is my understanding that if there are positions posted, then they obligated to fill them.

I'm not sure if I understand your question. In the recent past there was an AE that had 737-800 positions opened and the company did not fill them all, I don't remember the reason.

Currently there are about 30 people that have bid the 7ER in NYC. For this reason there will not be an issue with over staffing the fleet, but when they post openings, these numbers are the min that they can award not the max.
Normally there will be more pilots receive bids than the numbers required in a category because pilots currently in the category will move out.

Example: 30 pilots required for 777 FO
10 777 FOs bid off to 767 Capt.
40 pilots receive bids to the 777 FO
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Originally Posted by sully606 View Post
Normally there will be more pilots receive bids than the numbers required in a category because pilots currently in the category will move out.

Example: 30 pilots required for 777 FO
10 777 FOs bid off to 767 Capt.
40 pilots receive bids to the 777 FO

keep in mind though they don't have to backfill contingency vacancies. You need to look at the staffing forecast that accompanies the bid to see where they want to take each category. The post bid results usually get us pretty close to the numbers in this document.
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