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08-23-2007, 08:31 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
Just wondering what committee you are on for the union or have you "been there and done that" too?
08-23-2007, 08:51 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Better question would be what committee do you serve on? Hopefully its not the negotiating one or we're all screwed !!
We better unify or management will get exactly what they want: mainline flying that may as well have "Operated by (insert regional carrier name here)" on the side of every airplane.
08-24-2007, 06:06 AM
#23
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You guys sound like an old married couple. I did this; what did you do. Blah, Blah, Blah. I've been at CAL since 1987. Good luck in getting things changed. And yes...I voted no on the last contract.
08-24-2007, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sydney5316
Good luck in getting things changed.
Its pervasive attitudes like this that have landed us where we are. I too have been here since '87 and have been sickened by the attitude that the previous generation exudes, (see Scabs, PE types, NYAir ect..). Everything's great and don't rock the boat is no way to negotiate a contract.
Time to give our CEO a clear-cut message.
08-24-2007, 09:13 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Better question would be what committee do you serve on? Hopefully its not the negotiating one or we're all screwed !!
08-24-2007, 09:17 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by luv757
Another dumb question: why are we not as well armed as the company with professional negotiators? PBS, work rules, wages, and staffing all need to be fixed yesterday. As a group we all better get on the same page. I am junior, the 757/767 crew rest seat doesn't affect me. But you better believe that I realize that one day I won't be so junior and one day I would like to fly the 757/767 or the 777. I will vote no to the first offering and any subsequent offering that takes away anything from any portion of the pilot group.
We better unify or management will get exactly what they want: mainline flying that may as well have "Operated by (insert regional carrier name here)" on the side of every airplane.
We better unify or management will get exactly what they want: mainline flying that may as well have "Operated by (insert regional carrier name here)" on the side of every airplane.
Voting "no" just to vote "no" isn't the answer either. Sometimes you end up with a lot less than you started with. DAL learned that the hard way.
08-24-2007, 09:56 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
AHHHH, another of the NON-VOLUNTEERS, right???? Or, do I even ask if you've ever thrown your hat into the ring? My guess would be a resounding NO. And I bet I'd be right.
Several time member on the Negotiating committee, (sub not Stivala type), for '95, '97 and '02.
And you?
What's the prize for you being wrong?
08-24-2007, 02:31 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Wrong.
Several time member on the Negotiating committee, (sub not Stivala type), for '95, '97 and '02.
And you?
What's the prize for you being wrong?
Several time member on the Negotiating committee, (sub not Stivala type), for '95, '97 and '02.
And you?
What's the prize for you being wrong?
08-24-2007, 05:12 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
And you talk about me? CAL's negotiating team never seemed to negotiate much other than mediocre or well below everyone else.
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